Kim McIntire Personal Testimony Pt 2 - 30

What if your Bible stopped feeling like homework and started sounding like God’s voice? In this conversation with Kim and Amber, we walk through a transformative shift: reading Scripture not just for information, but for encounter. Kim shares the turning point—a simple Saturday class—that taught her to ask better questions, slow down to a passage, and respond to what God was saying. That practice didn’t just change her quiet time; it rebuilt her prayer life, renewed her mind, and opened doors to obedience she never anticipated.

We explore practical, repeatable rhythms anyone can try today: silencing distractions, choosing a paper Bible for depth, journaling with purpose, reading the Word aloud, and using brief, focused time to create real traction. For those who feel overwhelmed, Kim offers a clear starting point in the Gospel of John and a short, honest prayer for understanding. The result is intimacy with Jesus that grows month by month, and a confidence in praying Scripture that aligns your heart with God’s will.

Along the way, we talk about healing from chronic worry through steady time in the Word, the courage it takes to obey when God calls you to transition, and the power of community that sharpens and multiplies. Kim’s Abide classes, a growing prayer movement, and plans for a revival conference all trace back to daily engagement with a living, active Word that still speaks. If you’re hungry for depth, wanting to love prayer again, or ready to say yes to the next faithful step, this story will give you tools and hope.

Listen, share with a friend who needs renewed faith, and tell us: what passage will you sit with this week? If the conversation helped you, subscribe, leave a review, and pass it on so more people can learn to abide.

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome And Part One Recap
• 1:20 Kim’s Early Story And Marriage Shift
• 5:14 Moving Churches And A Pivotal Class
• 7:20 Reading Scripture For Devotion
• 11:00 From Knowledge To Intimacy With Jesus
• 13:30 Practical Bible Engagement Tips
• 17:35 Paper Bible, Focus, And Habits
• 20:00 Teaching Abide And Multiplying Leaders
• 24:20 Where To Start When Overwhelmed
• 27:10 The Sower Parable And Fruitfulness
• 30:10 Healing The Mind Through The Word
• 32:10 Obedience, Transition, And Community
• 35:00 Praying Scripture And Seeing Answers

Transcript

Kim McIntire: 0:06

Hey everyone, welcome to the It's Time to Rise Up podcast. I'm your host, Kim McIntire. We know there are so many things you can do with your time, so thank you for choosing to spend your time listening today. We pray you are encouraged and blessed by what is shared. If you're not familiar with our show, please check out our website at itstimetoriseup.org. There you will find our social media links, and for our podcast platforms, you'll find us on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and everywhere else you find your podcast. Welcome back to the studio, Amber Samson. It's good to be here. My ministry partner, my friend. Here for part two. You're the host? Okay.

Amber Sampson: 0:50

We're reversing the mic. Yeah, and so it's been fun to be on this side of uh of the microphone. So um, yes, this is part two of our host, Kim McIntire's story. And so um I want to, if you are tuning into part two, but you haven't listened to part one, stop what you're doing, go back to part one because um you might be kind of lost in Kim's story into you just need to hear everything that she has shared to this point. So um up until this point, Kim has shared about her childhood and how she had her daughter um as a teenage um mom out of wedlock, and and then how her husband Everett has come into her life, and then how their marriage was transformed by the work God did in Everett's life at a Promise Keepers Conference. So um so incredible. So I'm excited to pick it up um for um at this point and hear more because Kim and I have been friends for a while and I've heard parts of her story, but I'm getting to hear so much more, and it's been so good. And it's so interesting because I think it doesn't really matter, you know. People see when people see Kim, they see a prayer warrior, they see somebody who's faithful to the Lord, they see somebody who is fervently um, you know, praying and walking with the Lord and dedicated and all these wonderful things, and it didn't happen. It didn't just happen, it didn't come without hardship. And so I think it's easy to see somebody in ministry or somebody um, you know, elevated and on a platform and think, well, they've just had it easy. But Kim is a testimony right now to say, no, that's not true. Maybe had a storybook childhood, but my own personal decisions led me into some messes and God rus God rescued me and um and so but you've seen the Lord show up in those times. So Oh my goodness. All right, thank you. So tell us a little bit tell us a little bit more of your story. I'm excited to hear some more. Okay, I will.

Kim McIntire: 2:55

I want to read a scripture um from Psalm sixty-six, verse sixteen through twenty. Come and listen, all you who fear God, let me tell you what he has done for me. I cried out to him with my mouth. His praise was on my tongue. If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened, but God has surely listened and heard my voice in prayer. Praise be to God, who has not rejected my prayer or withheld his love from me. So I don't know, that's just one another scripture that I consider to be like a life verse passage, or it's really more of a passage than a verse. But I want to tell people what the Lord has done because he's done it for me and he can do it for anyone. Yeah, that's power of testimony. So I'm gonna pick up with um Everett and just that change, that shift that happened in him, and how that in turn impacted me.

Amber Sampson: 3:58

Um so for our listeners, kind of at what point, like are you 25? Are you 21? Are you 30? Kind of where are you at in your life?

Kim McIntire: 4:07

Would have been close to 30. Okay. Yeah, would have been getting close to 30, yeah. Um, late 20s. Um, so we had been going to a church, um, the really a family church. Um, wonderful people, one of my dearest friends, Jo Beth, who's one of the by teachers, she I met her there, and we are still dear dear friends after 30 years. We're still dear friends. Um, but Everett just really sensed that it was time to transition, and we transitioned to another church, and this church was very strong in biblical teaching. Um I had been I had read the Bible really from teenagers through my 20s as a practice for you know preparing for Sunday school because I actually started teaching Sunday school really young. Even when I was living a lifestyle that didn't match, you know, I had we were in a small church, they needed Sunday school teachers, and I was willing. So I read the Bible to prepare. I read the Bible to know in my mind how to teach the story. I'm just kind of a teacher by nature, so I love to read for knowledge, and that's how I read the Bible. I read it for knowledge. We're in a service at our new church, um, and the the lead minister says, I'm gonna be leading a class called How to Read the Bible for Personal Devotion. It's gonna be a Saturday class, and I thought, hmm, I should really take that class. So Everett and I took the class together. And it was really a marker in my life because in that class, Randy Garris taught us to read the Bible asking ourselves questions to engage our mind and our heart with God's word.

Amber Sampson: 6:12

Wow.

Kim McIntire: 6:13

And we had taken a notebook and our Bibles and a pen, and he just walked us through some really significant questions. Um I left that class, and it was several hours long, but I left that class with this burning in my heart to be in God's Word, and I can't tell you the change that happened in my life as a result of opening God's word to connect it with my heart and my mind, not just my mind. It's it's unbelievable, and it took time, but over time I just grew a deeper, deeper, deeper passion to hear from the Lord. And I I had never really thought before, this is God's voice to me. That sounds crazy. But if you're reading the Bible and you're not clear on that, the Lord is speaking to you. It's living, it's breathing. It's living, it's breathing, it's active, it changes things, it makes impact. Um, and that became real to me. And I just have been on this journey ever since. I was 32 years old when I took that class. It was 2003. I have been on a journey since then of just passionately pursuing God's word. And as I have passionately pursued God's word, I I know now that I know Jesus because Jesus is the word. And Jesus is so real to me now. I don't just know about Jesus, I know him. And it I believe it's because I'm a lover of the word. I know him in ways I never thought I could know him. Just his voice. I feel like I know God's thoughts because his thoughts are in the word. Um, his heart. The Bible reveals God's heart. His plans are in the word, his promises are in the word. And so this passion has grown me in intimacy with the Lord. And it's also grown this desire in me to not just read but to respond to the Lord.

Amber Sampson: 8:24

Oh wow. So so I I want to interrupt. So for our listeners who are who are feel stagnant in their relationship with God, sounds like you would say, read the word with your with an open mind, with like read it as though God is speaking to you because He is. That's right. He is. He's it's not just like your favorite novel that you're reading. This is a living, breathing word, and this is God is so kind to give us a book where that tells us all about it. That's so personal. Yeah. And uh one thing my grandma always says, my grandma's 80, you know, in her mid-80s at this point, she always says it, even to this day, you can always get she's like, I still learn new things out of the Bible. She said, I've read the Bible so many times, but I've I still get new things. So just because you've read John chapter three 17 times, there's still more. It really is. And still more things to know. Yeah. And so, wow. Um and so I'm gonna put a shameless plug in real fast that if you're like, oh, oh, I if if that's kind of hitting a nerve with you, it's resonating with you. Our podcast, it's Time to Rise Up Podcast, we have several episodes, our Abide series episodes, that kind of that teach you how to read the Bible, not just with your mind, but with your heart and with some practical steps and questions. So I would encourage you to check out those episodes. They're really um easy to find um in in the show. So yeah, go back and listen to those because I think it'll um well, I know it'll change your Bible reading because I practice those steps often too, and yeah, it's just a totally different way, like you're saying.

Kim McIntire: 10:13

Yeah, and I'm just gonna say here, just take a pause and say, you know, step one is when you open the word, you're asking the Lord, Lord, what do you want me to know?

Amber Sampson: 10:24

Yeah, because he does. He wants to show us.

Kim McIntire: 10:26

He wants us to know something.

Amber Sampson: 10:28

Yeah.

Kim McIntire: 10:28

And it's it's for our benefit to know it.

Amber Sampson: 10:31

Yeah.

Kim McIntire: 10:32

Um, so yeah, please check out the Abide Podcast um series.

Amber Sampson: 10:37

Those simple episodes are good. Okay. So your walk with God's changing and shifting, and the word of God is fresh and new.

Kim McIntire: 10:46

It's true. It also, you know, deepened my desire to pray. So the more I read the word, because my prayer life actually wasn't strong in my 30s, but as I, you know, I would say a decade into this really intentional pursuit of God's word on a daily basis, and it it has nothing to do with legalism. I literally can't wait to open my Bible every single day. Like it is the thing I cannot do without.

Amber Sampson: 11:16

And so taking it from just reading it as a book, a storybook, yeah. It's you know, this is what I have to do because my preacher says so. Everybody I know reads the Bible. This is just what I know as a discipline I should do. This changing the way you read the Bible has just stirred a love for the word.

Kim McIntire: 11:39

It really has. And and as I'm reading it, I'm responding to the Lord and what he's speaking, even in the Old Testament. I have a real love for the Old Testament now that I didn't have before because I finally recognized Jesus is in every Old Testament book. He was there in Genesis and all the way through. So um, I just I I feel like that responding to him grew conversation with the Lord that shifted how I prayed. So my prayer life before would mostly be asking God to do things, and then it was more asking God, Lord, like what's on your heart? Yeah, what do you want to do in my heart? Search me. Um, and and then listening, because he will respond if you listen, and that takes time and it takes practice. Yeah, it's it is it is a discipline.

Amber Sampson: 12:45

Yeah.

Kim McIntire: 12:46

Um I I intentionally sit quietly and I give space for that. My phone is silenced. I try to not have my phone, and I know a lot of people use their Bible app, and I think that's fine. But if you're getting notifications on your phone while you're reading your Bible app, I would suggest to you to change that that rhythm to where you can actually have time that's undistracted because the Lord really wants to speak.

Amber Sampson: 13:16

Well, I think there's something too about being able to open your paper Bible in front of you and be able to highlight something, or um, or maybe sometimes I'll date certain things and then I can see, oh yeah, this time last year I was, you know, this was going on and that, and I can remember, oh God gave me that scripture or God gave me that passage. Um and so or I can see where I've highlighted and underlined and because it's it's a reminder. Yeah, those things have come to mean something to me in that season and now this season. And so I think I think there's something uh to that of of opening up your paper Bible. Um that there's just and that's I don't know, there's just it's just such a personal it becomes personal, I think. Like this is, you know, my my there's something about my Bible. Yeah. I don't it that's different than my Bible app. I use my Bible app too. Sure. Um one you're talking about setting your phone, you know, changing the way you do that. One thing that helps me um is I quite uh I have to delete my Facebook and Instagram apps uh pretty much all uh often. Yeah. Because you know, there's just you it's become such a habit to just grab your phone and what's happening on social media and you don't and then before you know, you're like, why am I doing that? I I want to spend time with the Lord, but something about habits kick in. And so um I thought I would slide that in there in case somebody is like that's good. In case that helps somebody else, because that's a that's a tip that helps me. So that's good. Um so yeah, and so this is a habit that's been going on for twenty, thirty years. Twenty-two, almost twenty-three years.

Kim McIntire: 15:02

And you yeah.

Amber Sampson: 15:03

I I would say even in the time I've known you, I feel like I've seen you grow to love the word of God more.

Kim McIntire: 15:10

I have than it's becoming deeper and you did when I first met you, even. Yeah, it's becoming deeper and deeper, and I think part of that is you know, the Lord put on my heart um a couple years ago to reach out to some young women that I didn't really know, and I've talked about this before on the podcast. So for you if you've heard this, sorry about the repeat. But when um God really impressed upon me, you need to be teaching what I've taught you. And you need to be teaching what Randy taught you. And you know what Randy taught me, it's what I teach isn't identical to what he taught. You know how things grow and change and shift. So he used key words or key questions. I I lean into keywords that will just prompt a question. Yeah. Um, but there it's the same idea, you're just wanting to engage in the word. And so I started teaching this class I call Abide, and these four women just took hold of it. And then I opened another class, and those ten women took hold of it, and it just started multiplying into a leadership class, and now abide lead teachers. So when you're teaching others what that causes you to do, if you're wise, which I try, seek to be wise, is you you go deeper and you spend more time, and you're like, I want to grow, I want to learn, I want to become the master of what God's given me. So when I say master, I want to master that craft. We master all kinds of crafts, right? I know people that make beautiful quilts, right? I know people who paint beautiful paintings. My sister-in-law is an amazing artist, my friend is a great quilter. Um, so they master their craft.

Amber Sampson: 16:54

Right.

Kim McIntire: 16:54

And my passion is to master the craft of knowing God's Word and having it on my tongue, and being able, like if someone calls me or texts me for advice, not just giving them my thoughts or perspectives, but okay, Lord, remind me of what you taught me. And He will. And just draw it out of the well because if you take it in, this living water, it becomes a well that other people can drink from.

Amber Sampson: 17:18

Yeah.

Kim McIntire: 17:19

And it's not me.

Amber Sampson: 17:20

Yeah.

Kim McIntire: 17:20

I can assure you it's not me. He's doing it, but I'm allowing it. Yeah.

Amber Sampson: 17:25

So what are some um so you're reading the Bible and you're going deeper? So what are what are some practical things that our listeners could take hold of today um to deepen their um time in the word? Should they get a journal? Should they um, you know, get their computer out? Like what would you so what are some things that have helped you, I guess, to know the word and um you know, keep the water flowing in that well, you know?

Kim McIntire: 17:59

Yeah, one thing I do is I I I told you I silence my phone. I try to not have my phone by me unless someone's in the hospital or there's a family situation going on, or my daughter's traveling, then I keep my phone closer. Yeah. Um, but one thing I do is I try to eliminate distractions. I am a writer, so I record my my thoughts about God's word and what I believe God's speaking. I record it in a journal. I have hundreds of journals. I mean hundreds. My poor daughter, one of these days, she's gonna have to figure out what to do with them. But um, then I also use my voice audio on my phone. So sometimes I just want to speak God's word or the things he's taught me so later I can listen to it when I don't have my paper Bible in front of me. So that tons, dozens and dozens, probably I don't know, 50 or so on my phone of passages that I'm reading out loud. That's really a powerful thing to do too, is to read God's word out loud because the enemy can hear our voice, and that's a weapon. Um so journaling, getting rid of distractions, use your voice audio. I have a friend at church that journals into her phone. So there's journal apps that you can download into your phone. Yeah. And you can journal into your phone. But again, I would put my phone on airplane mode if I'm doing that. I don't want notifications popping up while I'm with the Lord. If I'm with you, Amber, and we're having lunch, my attention's on you, right? Right. And vice versa. You're listening to me, I'm listening to you. Why should it be different with God? Yeah. And when I'm with someone, I try most of the time to put my phone away. Yeah, you do. And I do that because I want the person I'm with to know you have my attention. And we should show God that much respect or more. Oh, really more. Yeah, absolutely. You know?

Amber Sampson: 19:41

So, like do you meet with the Lord the same time every day? Do you just meet with the Lord? That's really changing. It used to only be morning.

Kim McIntire: 19:51

Do you meet with them um you know, when you can, or it's always in the morning, but I've actually begun reading at night as well, and I didn't used to do that, but because I'm this passion, it's like when you develop a passion for anything, you try to find time to do it more whenever you can. And I'm tired at night, so I don't enjoy reading at night as much. But I I just find myself picking up the word more. So when my husband's showering, I mute the TV and I just open the word and pray and read, and you know, I listen to audio Bible, like there's times when I'm walking, I'll listen to my audio Bible. I just try to take in the word as much as I can as often as I can. Because the more you take something in, whatever it is, if you're eating healthy food, you become healthier. If you take in the word, you're gonna become stronger spiritually.

Amber Sampson: 20:38

So, what would you say to the listener who is like, the Bible really overwhelms me? There's some of it doesn't make sense, there's language I don't understand, or I just gave my heart to the Lord a few months ago and I don't even know where to start. What would you say to some say to listeners who are maybe um wanting to get started reading the word and understand it and grow in their you know walk with the Lord through Bible reading, but kind of don't know where to even really begin. Where would you what would your recommendations be?

Kim McIntire: 21:14

I would recommend that you go to the book of John and don't feel like you have to read an entire chapter. So chapters are divided into passages, and when I'm first teaching someone how to read the word, we take passages rather than chapters and break down that first passage. Hopefully, well, my Bible has my Bibles all have passages because I prefer it that way. Yeah. But not all Bibles read that way. Some of them it's just a straight-through chapter, it's not broken down. Yeah, a Bible that breaks it down into titles. And if you have a pure heart and your intention is to read God's word and to learn, if you pray this prayer and make it honest, Lord, I'm overwhelmed. I don't understand it, I don't know what I'm doing, but I need you to help me. I need you to help me read your word and to understand it and to grow from it and to love it. That's a prayer God will answer. Yeah. But you really have to, and you know, I would say, and I some people, I have had people disagree with me about this, but I would say, if you could read a passage and take five minutes to read that one passage, and then to just think about that one passage, even if you're not journaling, because so many people do not like to write, but let that roll in your mind. Like, what is the one thing I can leave? I can leave knowing that my time with God, even if it's five minutes, it's something that I know I can put in my heart for today. Yeah. I I can just tell you he's going to do it. Because what we don't always know is God wants that more than we do. Yeah, he does. It's true. I mean, he's so when the word says, abide in me and I will abide in you, what he's saying is draw close. To live in Christ, to abide in him, to remain in him means we are taking part of who he is, and and there's no better way to do that than to be in the word. Yeah. I mean, the word became flesh. Right, right. He made his dwelling among us. And I've been, I'm gonna refer to Mark Mark 4 really quick, and I know I've already read like a scripture, but I want to just say this parable, I feel like is a word that we need to really take hold of. And when I think about this, you know, I think about I've been all of those things. So let the listener hear. The farmer sows the word. This is Mark 4, verse 14 through 20. The farmer sows the word. Some people are like seed along the path where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. Others like seeds sown on rocky places, hear the word and at once receive it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. Still others, like seeds sown among the thorns, hear the word, but the worries of life and the deceitfulness of wealth, and the desires for other things come in and choke out the word, making it unfruitful. Okay, Amber, that all of those have been me at some point in my life, right? Where I had the word and I knew I should be reading it, and I knew it should be planted in my heart, but the worries of life, the deceitfulness of wealth, the shallow soil that won't take root, the enemy comes and steals it away. You know, I'm not doing those in the right order, but you you get the idea, right? For sure. But verse 20. Others, like seeds sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop 30, 60, 100 times what was sown. That is basically saying if you take in God's word and you meditate on it, and you let it really take root in your heart by connecting to it, because you can't just read it for your mind, you have to connect it to your heart. Your life is going to be a fruitful life, and people will take notice because you can't deny when someone is full of Jesus. And to be full of the word is to be full of Jesus. And not in a legalistic way at all.

Amber Sampson: 26:00

Yeah, but in an intimate relationship way. Yeah, and like when you love fellowship. Yeah, when you love somebody, you want to be with them. You want to spend time with them. You do, you want to know them, you know. You do. And you and I've been friends for years, but uh there's so much I don't know about you. Right. You know, ha there's still things about my husband of how many every year. I still don't know. I'm still know I'm still learning. And so that's the fun thing too about the Lord is that there's so many facets to him that we'll never know. Oh my goodness. Like no matter how many years, no matter how seasoned we think we are or how far down the road we are, because you've been reading the word for this this way for 20 plus years now, and you love it more now than you did a few years ago when I met you.

Kim McIntire: 26:42

Yeah, and it's really grown because you know when I first started reading the word, I spent 15 minutes a day in the word in prayer. That's really what it began to be, and then it grew and grew, and now I can't seem to find enough time. No matter how much time I have, I just don't ever seem to have enough time. But that's a great problem. I'll take that problem any day. But God's word healed my mind, Amber. Wow. I in my early 30s, I was at 20s, 30s, really just a cycle of worry, a cycle of dread, um, some irrational fears, and little by little by little, because it is a process. The Lord has healed my mind, and I have struggles just like everyone. There are times I might worry, but it's not common. It's not my normal to worry, it's not my normal to dread. It's not my normal to fear, and there's no explanation but God's word, because I can't do that for myself. Yeah, you know, no one can fix that. Right. Um, you can go to good counseling, and I think Christian counseling is a wonderful thing, but I'm telling you, nothing will heal your mind, your heart, your body, and your spirit. I believe even reading God's word has a healing effect on our body. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely on our heart, absolutely on our mind, but there's nothing like it. There's nothing like it. Wow. We had a transition a few years ago where again, Everett, you know, he seems to hear the Lord specifically when it's time to make a shift. And he just felt like we needed to make a shift and change where we were attending church, and that was a really hard thing, really, really hard. Um, oh man, 18 years in a church I loved and the people, oh my goodness, the best people you could ever meet in your life. Um, and so much rich teaching, biblical teaching that I mean my roots were just going deep, really going deep in that in that church. Um, and we left, it was during COVID, you know, everything was chaotic during that season of COVID. And when we came to this other church where you were attending at the time, like we became friends. I became friends with Holly, some other women on our team, and that's when we all started praying together, and then the Lord put this vision about That was where you that's where we met. Yeah, we met Yes, that's right, in Cindy's house when we were praying together. So I just kind of want to bring it full circle as as we became as I became part of this new community of believers. I feel like God, you know, there's never there's never a point where you hit the ceiling with the Lord. And so then I meet these women that are new to my life, and you guys were just iron that sharpens iron and challenging me, pushing me out of my comfort zone, asking me to do things I'd never thought about doing. I never in my life thought I would be hosting a podcast, I never in my life thought I would be part of a conference, and you know, it is in baby stages, but God's done so much, it's just blowing me away. And then to think, okay, I didn't know I would be leading abide classes, you know, five years ago. I didn't know I would lead a prayer team, and none of this is because of me, it's because of him. Yeah, like the Lord, he will connect you to who you need to be connected to, he will move you when you need to move, he will transition you, he will challenge you. Yeah. Has he ever challenged me? Because I feel like I'm more out of my comfort zone now than I've ever been in my life.

Amber Sampson: 30:05

So is so are you saying um are you saying like it's important to be pliable, it's important to be flexible. And when he says go, go, it's important to be obedient. Oh for sure. Yeah. Yeah, and that's gonna change that's a big that's gonna change your life. Oh it is working in obedience. Yeah, and it's not easy. No, i yeah, and that's the thing. It's it's really not in obedience to the outsider may look easy, but boy, can it be it can be really painful.

Kim McIntire: 30:35

Yeah, and it and we've had battles, you know, I think you would you would agree like being part of of Rise Up and just everything the Lord's doing and getting ready for this revival conference and knowing that we're all praying for revival. You know, I mean I started praying for revival during the COVID season season. The Lord spoke to me on my patio one day and said, invite women to pray for revival. And I'm like, Lord, nobody's even going to church. Who's gonna show up at my house to pray for revival? And five women showed up, and pretty soon 15 women showed up, and pretty soon 20, and then 25, and over a three-year period, 60 women came in and out of my living room to pray for revival. And now we're hosting a revival conference with Rise Up. You know, and look what the Lord has done. Look what he is all Him. Oh, it's all Him. We cannot produce this. Not a chance.

Amber Sampson: 31:24

Not a chance. None of us know enough about what we're doing. We yeah, even on our best day, we're so ill-equipped, but it's just and that's what makes it so special, I think, is that it all is a reflection of his glory and his goodness. And but I also we do play a part in it, and so I think it's okay it's i we we all said yes. We all said yes. And sometimes we had to um push people to say yes. I remember Kim was like, I don't know, and you felt it. I was a hard self. You were hard, you were harder sell. You felt it, but I don't think you you know, I don't know, but it's uh it's been a journey, um the whole everything uh the last few years. And so I don't know, we'll probably have some conversation about that in the future. We will the journey of of Rise Up because boy it's been a journey and we've all grown in these few years of in friendship. We've grown with the Lord. Yeah. And we've grown in prayer. Have we grown in prayer? One thing I want to say, and I don't is that uh one thing I've really learned from you is that when you're like in a you're not knowing what to pray for a situation, maybe it maybe it's for a friend or maybe it's personal, is going back to the word. Pray the word. Pray the word. Pray the word. In this day and age we've got we've got Google at our fingertips. Yeah. What are some scriptures um to pray for my husband? What are some scriptures to pray for my friend who's grieving? And Google is gonna just pop it right up. Now there's other ways to do it, but if you're like me, you know, it's pretty fast. It's but there's nothing wrong with that. There's faster than finding my strongest concordance and digging through that. So um, but that's something that I've learned from Kim is uh one of the many things. But uh is that when you don't know how to pray for something, you know, pray the word. And and and the other thing I would say too is when Kim prays, her prayers get answered. And you might think, well, I don't want why should I pray? My prayers don't get answered for like I'm talking to the wall. Pray the word. Because then you're praying God's will. And I I mean it's so simple. It won't fail. It won't fail, but that is his will. And so um, you know, when you're praying for your, you know, your family, you're praying for a situation, pray the word and watch what God does. Um that's um, anyways, I don't we we can't make this a three-part because we could easily go into three parts talking about the things I've learned from Kim. But oh you're sweet. Well that learned so much for me a friend. Well, but it's it's just you know, and that's you know, that's a thing I would say if ever if you're like, I want a friend like Kim, I want a friend like Kim, one thing I would say is pray that God brings people into your life that are running hard and fast towards the Lord and watch him answer it. Because that's that's one that's a part of my testimony. And and so I can sit across this table right now and look at you and think that's God answered that prayer by bringing you into my life among other uh ladies in my life. So um and that's mutual. Yeah, so it's that's mutual. It's been so fun to hear all the things about you, Kim. Well, thank you for asking if you could interview me. Yeah, it's you did a great job podcasting. You know, it's uh it's been it's been fun and you know. And I hope you don't still like it. That will not happen. I love it. I'm not fault to this, but it's it is fun. And uh, but again, talking about saying yes, you know, God will bless you. It's true. Um, anyways, but it's been so fun. I hope you listeners have enjoyed getting to hear more about Kim, and I hope it stirs a passion in you to read your Bible and to pray and to set aside your phone. Amen. You know, in your prayer time, or to just get off your phone Bible app, which is great, but get into your paper Bible, get your pen out, your journal.

Kim McIntire: 35:33

It's a legacy too. Someone's gonna have that when you pass to heaven, yeah. Right? So it's a legacy. Yeah, I mean, I know it's gonna encourage my daughter when she opens my Bible and I'm in heaven, and my granddaughter or my grandson, yeah. Yeah, for sure. So think about it that way too. Thank you, Amber, so much. Yeah, it's been fun. Thank you all for listening. If you were encouraged, strengthened, or blessed by this conversation, please share it with others. The purpose of our podcast is to glorify God and encourage all believers in their walk with the Lord. Once again, our website is it'stimetoriseup.org. There you'll find our social media platforms. May God's grace and peace be with you all through Jesus Christ our Lord.