Prepare For Revival Part 2 - with Pastors Chris Hoyer, Dan Wermuth, and David Pizinger - 23

What begins as a desperate cry in life's darkest moments can ignite a fire that transforms not only your life but the lives of everyone you encounter. This powerful conversation with local pastors Chris Hoyer, Dan Wermuth, and Dave Pizinger explores the heart of true revival through their raw, personal testimonies.

When doctors told Pastor Dave his wife would spend the rest of her life in a nursing home after a stroke, desperation led to a supernatural encounter. "Fire of God!" he declared, and immediately witnessed a miracle that defied medical explanation. This moment exemplifies the essence of revival—not a scheduled event or building, but a transformative divine encounter born from genuine hunger for God's presence.

The pastors share how their experiences at the Brownsville Revival marked them forever. Pastor Chris candidly admits he once feared manifestations of the Spirit until God broke through his skepticism: "I was afraid of that kind of church, afraid maybe of revival, and then when it came, it was so powerful but it wrecked us, it marked us and we became carriers of revival." These encounters fundamentally altered their ministries, making it impossible to return to lukewarm faith.

For listeners struggling through difficult seasons, the message brings profound hope. Revival doesn't require complicated spiritual formulas—only the humble acknowledgment of our need for God. "Lord, I need you" spoken with sincere desperation opens the door for divine visitation. As one pastor explains, "God knows exactly where you are, he knows exactly what you're going through and he knows exactly the remedy that you need."

Ready to experience the fire of revival in your own life? Join us at the Rise Up conference August 1-2 near Branson, Missouri, where carriers of God's presence will gather to ignite a fresh move of His Spirit.

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome & Conference Announcement
• 0:55 Personal Experiences with Revival
• 9:51 Carriers of Revival & Transformation
• 19:23 Defining True Revival
• 24:28 Humility, Repentance & Personal Preparation
• 35:59 Prophetic Word & Prayer for Listeners
• 41:29 Final Blessing & Closing

Transcript

Kim McIntire: 0:07

Hey everyone, welcome to the It's Time to Rise Up podcast. I'm your host, Kim McIntire. We know there are so many things you can do with your time, so thank you for choosing to spend your time listening. We pray you are encouraged and blessed and strengthened by what is shared today. If you're not familiar with our show, please check out our website at itstimetoriseup. org. There you will find our social media links and, as for our podcast platforms, you'll find us on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else you find your podcast. We also want to remind you that our annual Rise Up conference is August 1st and 2nd at the Keeter Center near Branson, Missouri. There is a discount for our podcast listeners. Just enter podcast15 when you go to our website to register. We can't wait to see you there.

Kim McIntire: 0:55

We are here to talk about revival. This is part two of our episode about revival. I want to welcome back Chris Hoyer, Dan Wermuth and Dave Pizinger. Thank you for being here. We're so happy to have local pastors in the studio willing to take it. You guys are busy people and you're willing to take a little bit of your time to talk a lot of your time, actually. We've been here a while, but a lot of your time to talk about revival, and so we're going to just jump right back in. We're going to start with this question what are your personal experiences with revival and who wants to lead out with that?

David Pizinger: 1:31

Well, my personal experiences is that anytime that revival really breaks out in me, because it starts with each one of us individually, you know you can want corporate revival, you can want transformation, but if there's not something burning in your heart then it's going to be difficult and sometimes what we find. I think Parham said it very well when the Lord said to him are you willing to move into this revival? And this is what Holy Spirit said. Holy Spirit said are you ready for persecution? Are you ready for trials? Are you ready to be slandered? Are you ready for scandal? Are you ready to be slandered? Are you ready for scandal to come, because people are going to not want to be a part of what you're doing, especially when you're doing that and God's moving, because jealousy comes and a lot of things like that. But if you make it personal, get out of that mindset of division and make it personal, then what happens is you have experiences with God that puts a revival in your heart, that makes you want more. And I'll give you an example, because when we had our revival for Four State Awakening the last day, I was supposed to open and my wife had a major stroke. So I called Pastor Dan up and I said would you cover for me? Today I've got to run to Miami.

David Pizinger: 2:41

Well, I didn't know what was going on. All I knew was she's in the hospital in the emergency room. So I'm praying and saying God, I don't know what's going on here. I really need an encounter with you. I need you to show up. I don't know how bad it is, but I know you know what's going on and you have planned. You've helped me walk through this before and so I'm needing you to show up. So I walk into the emergency room and the doctor said I'm sorry, but your wife will be in a nursing home the rest of her life. And I said, sir, I thank you for what you said and I appreciate your professional abilities, but I need to go pray with my wife. I knew I needed encounter with God.

David Pizinger: 3:18

And so I remember walking into that room and it's freezing cold and they've got a doctor from Oklahoma city addressing her and she's paralyzed on one side of her body. And I looked over at the doctors and I, all of a sudden, what rose up inside of me? This revival spirit that rose up made this most profound statement that I have never said before in my life. All of a sudden I said would everybody be quiet? And I yelled it out and there was silence in the room and out followed that was fire of God, and that's all I said. And a little Baptist girl was standing next to me and she goes I'm on fire. I'm on fire and I said, sweetheart, hold on to the side of the bed, because God showed up.

David Pizinger: 3:58

And at that minute a split second she come out of that stupor. Her whole body began to work. Doctors were just floored about what just happened because they couldn't explain it. Praise God. What happened was God showed up, praise God, you know. But it was from a hunger of desperation, that's right. That caused me to really press into God, because it was something that I wasn't, nor the doctors were able to do. But I knew a God who could do it, that's right. And so that's when the burning fire of God. You know the Bible talks about being baptized with Holy Spirit, but then he goes and fire. You know, we know Holy Spirit, but do we know the fire of God Come on. And the only time fire really comes is when there's something that needs to be burned up.

David Pizinger: 4:41

And so that means right now, when you're seeing revival break out, there's persecution, there's people being martyred, there's people that are desperate for God and, as a result, god is showing up giving them an encounter, and that's what revival is. It's an encounter with God, and it's out of desperation that it comes, and so my personal revival began that day when I experienced God.

Kim McIntire: 5:06

Praise the Lord. Wow, dan how about Pastor? Dan how about you?

Dan Wermuth: 5:10

No, Well, when he was talking about that, I thought one of the first revivals I'm aware of is the one when Jesus was revived. I mean, the resurrection is a revival, was it not? And his spirit reentered his body. His body had already been decaying. Everything had to come back online. Yeah, and he come up out of that grave Praise.

Kim McIntire: 5:32

God.

Dan Wermuth: 5:34

We saw there is a whole new encounter now with the living Lord and we see scripture talk about all the people who had those encounters with him, and so when he's talking about fire, he had a word from the Lord and he spoke it and it revived her body. That's right. And so there's a revival in a healing, a miracle that she needed. That's right.

Dan Wermuth: 5:56

I remember from early years as a kid, going to revivals. You know they were every night and so you would go and you would worship and you would hear the preaching and believers would would surrender the unbelieving parts of their heart and unbelievers would come to surrender their lives for the first time, their hearts, to the Lord, right, and. And so we saw that and I saw different encounters through the years and different moves of God, some I didn't get to go to. I went to Toronto and discovered some of the most amazing things God was doing. I didn't get to Brownsville and there are many other places where there's, you know, sweet moves of God, but I liked what you know Pastor Dave said it starts with me and a hunger for.

Dan Wermuth: 6:42

God.

Kim McIntire: 6:43

That's right.

Dan Wermuth: 6:44

Hungry enough that I might turn my plate over. I'm so hungry, God, I'm desperate for you. I'll turn my plate over and say I'd rather eat from your table and hear your voice than eat from this food. You know, that's possible.

Dan Wermuth: 6:59

And then to linger in his presence, and so I've been in these encounters with worship. That was revival, worship, revival is a moose of God, I think, just in the few decades that I've been on the planet, I would say probably the greatest enemy of a really good revival is settling for good when there might be a best yet to encounter.

Kim McIntire: 7:23

Amen.

Dan Wermuth: 7:24

I say that because, wherever my last revival was and encounter with God, to think God will only meet me in that same way is to limit what God has, and since he is omniscient and omnipotent and omnipresent, there's the more of God. I've heard Pastor Chris talk about the more of God and the more of God is, so let's stay hungry for that. So, yes, fresh encounters with the Lord and relinquishing how he's done it in the past in order to have what he wants to do now. And if he comes the same way, that's because he chose to, but not because I regulated him to.

Kim McIntire: 8:07

That that's a good word.

Dan Wermuth: 8:08

So the revival that's going on in the earth, I think if we could just turn our eyes towards heaven and not towards the structure of how we think it has to be, then there's this sweet spot of doing the planning that's necessary to gather people but not being so structured that we keep people from encountering the presence of the Lord. And I heard, I heard Pastor Chris talking about just bowing the heart and the knee before the presence of the Lord and seeing what he might do and what he might want to say.

Dan Wermuth: 8:45

And you know, my prayer is is that there'll be more and more of those encounters, that we will linger longer and that, um, that people will be so hungry for the Lord in our local congregations, on gatherings, that, um, the time scale for how soon we have to get out is not, is not adhered to. You know, like I understand, some congregations have got to do multiple services. And what if God were to break out? And what if there was a move of God in first service? Then just let second, third and fourth jump in if they want to. I mean, you know, instead of on the street people pushing them away, I don't know, just like, are we making room for that? It's true In our conscious thought. What might the Lord do? Yeah, and then how would we accommodate? Yeah, who knows? But let's just say, lord, whatever you want to do, we're open to it.

Dan Wermuth: 9:36

And of course there's those different personality types that really like structure.

Kim McIntire: 9:40

Yes.

Dan Wermuth: 9:46

And the grave is a real structure. If you really want to die in your nest, your need to have structure. There's a grave. Come in and it's measured, that'll be great, you'll have it, it's true, but I um I, I do want.

Dan Wermuth: 9:56

I want to do things in with decency and in order, and I think the scripture gives us that, and the apostle did a good job of showing us that in the New Testament. But if we're so bound to structure, the grave will provide that for you ultimately one day. It's true, the undertaker can accommodate.

Kim McIntire: 10:13

That's a hard word, but it's a true word.

Dan Wermuth: 10:15

So I want a resurrection.

Kim McIntire: 10:16

Yes, amen.

Dan Wermuth: 10:18

Don't keep me down.

Kim McIntire: 10:19

Amen, amen to that. How about you, pastor Chris?

Chris Hoyer: 10:26

We were Holly and I was pastoring our second church. Our first church that we pastored grew and we experienced great things there but I can't say that we actually saw like a move of revival or anything like that. But during our second church at Newton County Christian Fellowship, we were asked to go down to Brownsville. And you know, in that season of my life I was a young minister and I would have told you I had revival. And when we went down to Brownsville I can remember being afraid.

Chris Hoyer: 11:02

I had watched some of the VHS videos at the time that was sent to us that was a while ago.

Chris Hoyer: 11:09

Oh yeah, and the things that we saw, the manifestations that we saw. I just remember thinking that wasn't God and at that time, of course in that season, the spirit of laughter had broke out at Oral Roberts University and I remember watching that and telling my wife that wasn't God. Until it broke out in the church. I pastored one night there you go and I was trying to shut it down and it wouldn't shut it down. And then I see my own dear wife involved and it caused me just to rethink things.

Kim McIntire: 11:40

I love that.

Chris Hoyer: 11:41

You know, I realized there might be some listeners that go spirit of laughter. Yeah, me too.

Chris Hoyer: 11:51

I thought, the same thing, spirit of laughter. But when it happens to you it's real, it's true. And we began to see God moving in that church there at New County Christian Fellowship. And so I went to Brownsville, holly and I went to Brownsville with a dear pastor, friend of ours, and I had so much expectation for that and I'll never forget Michael Brown. The pastors got to go in and he preached a message about I am Aiken, I am Aiken to us pastors, while everyone else is standing in line. And I can remember, as he was preaching, all of a sudden it was full in their sanctuary and I began to see this wave of pastors, as he was speaking, beginning to fall out of the pew and it's coming towards Pastor Dean and I like a wave, and I remember this holy fear coming up on me and I grabbed that pew in front of me and I look at Dean and the next thing I know it's five feet away and when I wake up we're all laying on the floor and this wave of just this from that message of I am Achan, that's right, that came.

Chris Hoyer: 13:01

And that first night I just had so much expectation. I remember going into the sanctuary. The pastors got to go in first. We set up on like the second row and out comes Lyndall Cooley and he goes up there. His voice is hoarse, he chews up a cough drop. I want to make sure my listeners I mean I remember it spot on Wow, and you know they didn't have lyrics on the wall in those days. They just went in and they sang and all of a sudden he hits a few keys on the piano and begins to jump and dance. Yeah, and I began to cry. Wow, I began to weep. I had never felt anything like that in my life and it was at that moment. I was like this is it? I've heard about it, I've read about it, but with the stroke of a couple keys on the piano, I felt it. What?

Chris Hoyer: 13:56

did you feel Just a bursting of fire and fullness on the inside. And as those revival services began to go on through that week that we were there, holly and I were changed. I mean, it wrecked us, it marked us and I, you know, I really pray that what all everything that we're saying really stirs people that are just hungry and sad, never experienced it. Because I want to be clear, I was afraid of that kind of church, I was afraid maybe of revival, and then when it came, it was so powerful but it wrecked us, it marked us and we became carriers of revival. That's right. And you know, I'm sure, these men around the table, I know them, they're carriers of revival. That's right. And you know, I'm sure, these men around the table, I know them, they're carriers of revival. And it doesn't take a lot of fire to get this kettle ticking.

Dan Wermuth: 14:54

That's for sure. I can tell you that.

Chris Hoyer: 14:57

But carriers of revival and we were marked and we saw God move and we took it back to our church. Yes, and revival broke out in our church. And that's when I knew, that's when I knew I was still a banker, I was still a farmer, and we picked up and we left and we we've never been the same again. And so when people talk about revival, you know, I always just it was kind of like Holly and I just held our hands across the fort of Jabbok and went and had our Bethel experience came out. We've walked with a limp ever since, but that anointing, that presence when it comes, when the time comes, when we need to pray for somebody, when we need to give a word and season to someone that's weary, it manifests it's to someone that's weary, it manifests it's there, it's ready. And I love revival and it's all I know. I can't be cold, I can't be lukewarm, there's only one temperature I can be.

Chris Hoyer: 15:56

And it's hot and all in and just ready to deliver, and that would be the thing I'd want to say to the folks that are listening to us is that I wasn't raised that way. I did never experience those things. I'm so thankful for the Brownsville revival. I'm thankful most of all, though, for what God did, because I had been called to pastor and I had received the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I was what I thought, preaching great messages. All of a sudden, when we went back to Newton County in 1995, after that revival and stepped up to the pulpit the first time, it was different, and it's never been the same again. And when I began to think about preaching I can't preach cold brother, I just can't.

Chris Hoyer: 16:43

And it was like the night when we were at your church years back when you had invited us on a Wednesday night and went in and preached a word.

Dan Wermuth: 16:52

And we saw a miracle that evening.

Chris Hoyer: 16:55

You know, it's just, it's always when I go to a church, someone's going to get saved, and I know that you brothers feel that same. Someone's going to get saved, they're going to get delivered, they're going to experience an impartation, the presence of the Lord, there's going to be a healing. Amen, and we're just going for it and I don't know how to do anything else than that.

Dan Wermuth: 17:15

Is that not an earmark of revival that I anticipate Right, if I will be a carrier of the presence of God, he will show up. That's right and goodness. His goodness will manifest.

Kim McIntire: 17:25

Yes.

Dan Wermuth: 17:26

And when you preach there, you also preached a word about how to believe God for child. And my cousin and his wife wanted a child. They started writing the name of the child they wanted to have on their giving envelope. They would name their seed every Sunday, but they put the booties on the wall. Praise God, praise the Lord, and they became with child, had it. When the child was born, the doctor said it's a miracle because the condition of her body would not allow that. So he is a miracle baby because they heard the word of the Lord. That's right, because you guys carry a presence of God, a revival spirit in your heart concerning how God wants to revive the womb. Yes, and so her womb was a tomb, but it became a womb. Yes, and Stephen is alive today and swimming in a swimming pool today.

Dan Wermuth: 18:16

So I'm just telling you what you're talking about carrying revival.

Chris Hoyer: 18:21

We had a testimony, pastor Dan, it's testimony. We had a testimony, we took a testimony, pastor Dan. We had a testimony, we took a testimony into that service. We had our grandchild that night playing that we weren't supposed to have with us and we had the picture that we showed everybody.

Chris Hoyer: 18:35

And you know I'm not the eloquent speaker, I'm not this one that can regurgitate the word in a great oratory way. But I've had an experience with the Lord. I've been on the mountain, that's right. I got the fire and that's what I love is I just go in and what the Lord's got, I release it. I believe him for it and I'm so thankful our life was changed. Thank you for revival.

Dan Wermuth: 19:00

So thank you for helping people listening right now to redefine. Revival is not a drive to a location and a service and then you drive home. Revival is an encounter with Holy Spirit that we've been listening to. That transforms us and changes us, and it should change us to the degree that we now carry that encounter and others get to experience it. So it's a living thing that we now carry that encounter? Yes, and others get to experience it. Yes, so true, so it's a living thing. Yes, it's not a. I met this moment.

Chris Hoyer: 19:31

I am changed and carrier now of the presence and the levels of intensity. The depth, the levels of intensity continue to grow, yeah, and increase. That's right. God continues to release more. Yes in all of our lives as we pursue and I don't understand it all. He's God Sure. I sure am enjoying it. I'm enjoying that life.

David Pizinger: 19:54

Well, we see that that's really the life of Christ. You know, for all these centuries they waited for his coming. There's people right now waiting for him to come. There's people right now believing that what we have they want and they're waiting for it, just as they waited for Jesus to come. That's right. So when Jesus came for his three and a half years, he showed them what real revival was. He showed them about the healings, the miracles, the signs and wonders. He showed them who the real Messiah was. He showed them who the real Father was. He showed them who the real Messiah was. He showed them who the real father was. He showed them who the real Holy Spirit was. But then he told his disciples, after they experienced that go up into Jerusalem and tarry upon high until the Holy Spirit comes upon you. You know that word tarry means is the word cathizo, and that word cathizo means to be sitting in an expected position for a move of God.

Dan Wermuth: 20:44

It's not just sitting back going.

David Pizinger: 20:45

Okay, god, if you want to do something, come it's. No, I'm in an expected position because what God said he's going to do and he's going to do it in me, yes. And when you get that kind of hunger, when you get that kind of um stirring within your spirit that you know there's more than you are positioned now for more, but you have to have that hunger, that stir. You know, I went to a revival right after I got saved and I had a bad car accident and my shoulder was all busted up and this man was preaching and I didn't believe in miracles and he's healing people and he's preaching on healing. He came to me and he says do you believe that by the power of God I can heal you?

David Pizinger: 21:26

I said I don't know you. I said I can't tell what you're able to do. He said but do you believe the word of God? I said absolutely. He took his fist and he hit my shoulder and the first time I fell out in the Holy Spirit. I'm laying on the floor with a stupor in my brain but a spiritual encounter in my body and I'm laying there going what just happened? When I got up, my shoulder wasn't healed, but my heart was, because my heart was so hard towards what I believed as false religion and doctrine and apostate. And you know, I don't want to be taught something that's not truth. I want to experience truth. When I got up, my heart was healed from a stony heart.

David Pizinger: 22:14

Two days later, my shoulder was healed Because now I was positioned to hear from the one who wanted to do it. Before I was looking at man, but now I'm looking at God. That's right and God showed up Amen, so good.

Dan Wermuth: 22:29

So don't you think that's part of revival, the healing? Of the heart, the awakening of the heart. Awaken from our slumber. Awake awake, awake awake.

Kim McIntire: 22:37

Scripture tells us, and then rise.

Dan Wermuth: 22:40

Yeah, rise up and when you look at that amazing passage he was talking about in Isaiah 60, what I loved about that is the picture of the glory shining from us. Sometimes, when we see it, it sounds like it's you know, the glory shining on us. But arise, my people, let your light shine for all the nations to see, for the glory of the Lord is streaming from you, even though it's darkness is covering the earth and the people of the earth. But all the nations will come to your light. Even mighty kings will come to your glory, and the glory of the Lord is upon you. Lift up your eyes and see your sons and daughters. Part of the signs of revival is sons and daughters returning to us.

Kim McIntire: 23:23

That's right.

Dan Wermuth: 23:24

Prodigals coming back that's right If we would arise, then they will arise from their place.

Dan Wermuth: 23:30

I love the fact that he says your sons and daughters are coming home to you from distant lands. And one translation says your daughters will be carried to you. And I love that picture because there is even some of our kids that can't even walk that journey. But the Lord says they will be carried to you. And I love that picture because there is even some of our kids that can't even walk that journey, but the Lord says they will be carried to you. That's right. Brought to you. There's going to be restoration. I love that promise. Part of the signs of revival is that the hearts of the fathers are turned again to their sons and daughters and the hearts of sons and daughters back to their fathers and their mothers, of course. So that's a sign of revival happening in my life. And he changed his heart and then his physical body came into alignment, don't you? That's right.

Kim McIntire: 24:11

I love that God's so good. Yeah, god's so good. Let's talk about humility and repentance and the role that those play in revival. I'm going to read from 2 Chronicles 7, 14. If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then, while I hear from heaven and will, I will forgive their sin and I will heal their land. Go ahead and read the next verse I will forgive their sin and I will heal their land.

David Pizinger: 24:44

Go ahead and read the next verse.

Kim McIntire: 24:46

I will Now. My eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place.

Dan Wermuth: 24:54

Wow.

Kim McIntire: 24:55

Amen.

Dan Wermuth: 24:57

So the Lord even promised. If you will do that, first part of that verse I will see in here.

Kim McIntire: 25:04

It's so true.

David Pizinger: 25:06

And Solomon did not know, when the fire went out, what it was going to take to get back.

Kim McIntire: 25:11

Right.

David Pizinger: 25:12

But God knew in a dream that if you would do this, I'll do that. That's all he asked.

Kim McIntire: 25:21

If you'll do this.

David Pizinger: 25:22

I'll do that.

Kim McIntire: 25:24

Yeah, now we can't bypass humility and repentance when it comes to revival and awakening, and so in episode one, pastor Dan referenced personal preparation and just really sense in my spirit there are people that they're not sure what that means, and so we want to just talk about that a little bit, what personal preparation for revival looks like. So who would like to just speak into that for a moment?

Dan Wermuth: 25:58

I would just say I think the first act of my humility is my identifying. I need a fresh touch from heaven.

Kim McIntire: 26:08

I need more of God.

Dan Wermuth: 26:09

So humble to be in the humility component for me is to go wait a minute, I can't. My cup is really not that full, it's not as full as I thought. So, lord, I am sorry that I have somehow gotten so busy doing the work of the lord that I wasn't spending time with the lord. And that humility to return to the lord, humility to humble, bow down before seek his face, that's right. I think that's a component that every listener um, because there's someone listening right now who has been through literally the ringer. They've struggled so hard in what's been going on in their life and revival to them just seems and sounds like a whole lot more work for them. But it's the turning of the heart.

Kim McIntire: 26:55

Yes.

Dan Wermuth: 26:56

Saying I do need more of you. And when I do that, the Lord is not there. With a ruler slapping my hands on all the things I've been breaking, the rules I've been breaking. He just encounters me and in that encounter I find myself relinquishing, repenting of things that have gotten in the way of me and him being in relationship and then turning away from that so I can turn towards him.

Dan Wermuth: 27:24

Oh, that's so good I believe there's a person right now who's listening, who's like you know, I really want personal revival and I just say to you the Lord has been pursuing you harder than you realize. In fact, in the last week you've had individuals say things to you that's triggered in your spirit, in your heart, that God is there and wanting to help you. But you've been so overwhelmed with what's been going on and I believe that listener is going to reach out to you and reach out to Rise Up and indicate I heard that word and I did these things that these pastors started to talk about. It's just turning your heart back towards the Lord, amen.

Kim McIntire: 28:00

He's going to meet them.

Dan Wermuth: 28:01

And the circumstances that they're in right now are not going to meet them, and the circumstances that they're in right now are not going to destroy them.

Dan Wermuth: 28:06

I want to encourage them to know your circumstances and your revival you want is not for circumstantial change. The revival you want, that you need is a heart change towards the Lord. So just come back again to him and visit the Lord, spend time with him and go ahead and snot and cry for a while on your carpet. It's okay, it'll clean up after a while. So the Lord is going to meet you there. There's a miracle waiting for that person right now.

Kim McIntire: 28:33

Amen, there's a miracle waiting for them.

Dan Wermuth: 28:34

Yes, we believe it, and it comes in just the turning of their heart.

Kim McIntire: 28:37

Yes, Lord.

Dan Wermuth: 28:39

For them to make a turn.

Chris Hoyer: 28:40

And for them to make a turn, and when they say I don't know what to pray, I don't know what to do, all you've got to do is say Lord, I need you. And when you cry out with that desperation, with that sincerity Lord, I need you.

Dan Wermuth: 28:55

Say it one more time he comes on the scene. You just made it easy.

Chris Hoyer: 28:58

Say it again Listen to what Pastor Chris is saying. Just cry out, lord, I need you, and his presence is going to come into the room where you are. You're going to feel him, sense him and he's going to begin to move and work in your life. And just talk to him like we're talking to you right now in this podcast. Just talk to him and you will begin to experience change and turn around in your life.

David Pizinger: 29:23

James says you have not because you ask not yes, and all you have to do is ask. I like what Isaiah said in Isaiah 44, 3. He says if you turn to me, he says the water of those who are thirsty will become floods on dry ground. And then he says I will pour out my spirit upon you.

Kim McIntire: 29:44

That's right.

David Pizinger: 29:46

And so he's just waiting for you yes. You know you're waiting for him. Well, he's waiting for you. You know the Bible says that when they went up in that upper room after Jesus showed the three and a half years and they sat in that expected position, their whole life was transformed because they were in expectancy. I just want to encourage whoever it is that's listening to be an expectancy that God is going to come to your house, like he did to Zacchaeus.

Kim McIntire: 30:10

He made a personal invitation.

David Pizinger: 30:11

You know, god grew that tree years before Zacchaeus ever got there and he put it in the middle of a street that should have had it cut down. And Zacchaeus comes along, climbs up in the tree, and Jesus sees him and says, zacchaeus, I'm coming to your house, amen. And it changed his life. Yeah, and God wants to change the life of all of us because we're all. You know. The Bible says we're all working out our salvation. Yeah, we've not all gotten there yet.

Chris Hoyer: 30:36

It's so simple. I love that verse. It just says when we draw near to God, he draws near to us.

Dan Wermuth: 30:42

It's so simple we make it so hard. So you've just indicated for the listener and I hope you're hearing this Pastor Chris is trying to say formulas are not what God is looking for you to fulfill.

Chris Hoyer: 30:56

Yes.

Dan Wermuth: 30:57

You're saying draw near to him, say I need you and he will encounter you. Yes, is that what you're saying? Yes, yes, say I need you, yeah, and he will encounter you. Yes, is that what you're saying? Yes?

Chris Hoyer: 31:05

And you said turn.

Dan Wermuth: 31:06

Turn.

Chris Hoyer: 31:07

Got to turn. That's the part of humility. If we don't turn, which is a humble act, but when we turn, it's humility, yeah. And then that's when the opportunity for repentance comes.

Dan Wermuth: 31:17

What does that repentance part look like, Pastor Chris?

Chris Hoyer: 31:19

Well, it's that cry like the crying out of Lord I need you, I've tried all of these things. And then, of course, repentance when we turn to the Lord and he begins to reveal things to us, what's going on in our lives. That's part of the awakening. We began to see what we didn't see in ourselves and that's when we can begin to repent and see we're not as low as we need to be. In his presence, we begin to see really the condition of our heart, our lives, and that's where we can cry out to him and say you know help.

Dan Wermuth: 31:55

So, if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying it's as easy as Lord. I really missed it on this, or, lord, I got way too busy on that. Lord, I let this take first place in my eyes instead of what your promises are. And so, lord, I repent. Sometimes we say I'm sorry, but I love the way you said the word repent is Lord. I'm repenting. I turn away from that practiced way of thinking and doing to come back to the heart of worship, come back to what your word says you are and who you will be in my life, so that repentance is really a turning. Yes, and then, if we repent, what does he do?

Chris Hoyer: 32:36

Well, he is faithful and just To forgive.

Kim McIntire: 32:41

He comes rushing in.

Dan Wermuth: 32:42

Every repentance has a faithful forgiveness. Now, most people, though, listening right now, don't realize that the very moment we repent, that touches the heart of God always, because the blood is so precious to him. That's right. Forgiveness is already flowing, that's it right there. So the promises, they are connected. They are connected by the precious covenant of blood.

David Pizinger: 33:05

And the whole purpose of Jesus coming was to bring that forgiveness, yes, to release you from that. You know, one of the things I sense too is that the scripture tells us in 1 Corinthians 12, paul speaking you can't say to the hand or foot I have no need of them, because they're all valuable. You know, some of you may be sitting out there today thinking that I have no value, I'm not worth anything, comparing yourself with other people. Don't do that. God created you. God knows exactly where you are, he knows exactly what you're going through and he knows exactly the remedy that you need. And when you turn, when you repent, when you call upon him, he says that he's going to show you great and mighty things you do not know.

David Pizinger: 33:47

And if that's not good, enough if you read Paul's writings there in 1 Corinthians 12, he comes along and says it's not for the greater ones, it's for the weaker ones. He said the whole purpose of the hand and feet is not the value of what one has over another, it's the value of what you do have. I'm going to give to the weaker ones, because they're the ones that have more value, because they're the ones that are crying out. See, God's going to minister to you from where you're at, not from what you see someone else is at, because God loves you right where you are.

David Pizinger: 34:20

He wants to meet you there, even as we speak.

Kim McIntire: 34:22

Amen.

Dan Wermuth: 34:23

Can I say that I got such a sense in my spirit listening, you know, to these men of God just talk about what you know. That part looks like there's an individual. I believe that's listening right now. The word rise up we've been talking about. The sense in the picture that I got is that they have a practiced way of praying. It seems like they either are on their knees or, you know, prostrate just kind of down.

Dan Wermuth: 34:52

I felt like the Lord was saying rise up. With the word we've been using, rise up for them to practice something different. That humility for them would be to leave what has been what they thought was the right way for them would be to leave what has been what they thought was the right way. Rise up and stand as a son and a daughter of the Lord in his presence, lift up their eyes, lift up their hands and repent and become humble from the position of sonship, standing literally with heart lifted towards the Lord. So I just speak this word rise up in a new, practiced way of encountering the Lord he wants to meet you in a fresh way.

Dan Wermuth: 35:29

Not that your kneeling was wrong, but this is a new moment for you to rise up, stand, lift up your eyes, lift up your hands and let the countenance of the Lord shine upon you.

Dan Wermuth: 35:40

Amen, and let the countenance of the Lord shine upon you. In this moment and I really believe that there's a person listening who their knee I believe it's knee could be knees is what I'm sensing there's a healing going to happen in the legs and knees that need to be healed. I hear bone on bone rubbing against each other. So, in this new practice way and of just standing in his presence, the Lord's going to bring healing and that humility to do something fresh and new, amen, and just some new encounters with the Lord in that respect. But I hear that prophetic word rise up is really strong. Rise up, do it. Do something new and fresh, by unction of the Holy Spirit, of course, but to do so Because, yes, sometimes we lay down before the Lord and we think that that's my practiced way of humility, but I think the Lord wants us to, in humility, stand in sonship and encounter something fresh and new.

Dan Wermuth: 36:34

So I just lay that on the table for the Lord to work in someone's heart and see what you know. You, gentlemen, would judge that in this moment, but there's something really sweet about rise up in new humility and new humility. It looks it's going to look different for sure. But nonetheless is it humility, surrender and really repentance and then encounter rev and a visitation of the Lord. It's just a new day. The word rise up just keeps singing in my spirit and I won't get a piano out and start to play it.

Kim McIntire: 37:15

Well, I really believe that we need to pray over our listeners. We've talked about a lot of layers of revival and we don't want to stop without praying, so let's just conclude this interview with some prayer over our listeners. We'll just have an open time if one or two people want to pray, and then I'll close when I think we're ready. Okay, thank you. Thank you, lord.

David Pizinger: 37:38

Father, I thank you that the heavens are open. I thank you that you poured out your Holy Spirit so that we would have an encounter with you. I thank you, Father God, that the listeners that are hearing right now are hearing by the Spirit. And you are touching their hearts. You're touching their situations. You're touching their circumstances. You're touching their cry. Yes, lord, father, when the children of Israel cried out, you heard their cry. And you sent the answer.

Dan Wermuth: 38:05

Well.

David Pizinger: 38:05

Father, hear their cry tonight. Hear their cry for a deeper walk with you. Hear their cry of their heart that is broken. Hear their cry of their afflictions. Hear their cry of their situations that they're facing, even as we speak, and move. Stretch out I like what Peter and John said even as we speak and move, stretch out. I like what Peter and John said, stretch out thy hand and heal thy servants and give them boldness to turn to the things of you. We just know, lord God, that you're ministering to many tonight, and those that Father God are hearing or receiving, and those who are receiving, will continue to help others do the same.

Dan Wermuth: 38:41

Thank you, lord, thank you, thank you that the reward of revival has been prayed by a grandmother and a grandfather and that generational blessing yes. I'm talking about generational blessings, and intercession is coming now upon these listeners and those who will gather even in the near future, here in this conference in August. Lord, I thank you that there is a generational blessing being released from those family members who have prayed for a move of God in their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren's lives. So I set my faith in agreement with them for that.

Dan Wermuth: 39:19

And that surrender, that happens where the encounter is manifest in your presence, changes forever. Yes, lord, a life, a family.

Kim McIntire: 39:29

Thank you, Jesus, Thank you.

Chris Hoyer: 39:31

Jesus In the book of Acts. Peter and John was going to the temple to pray and they came upon a lame man. They said silver and gold. I do not have but this that I have, I give to you, and so many of us are looking for a lot of different things in this world to provide the needs that we have, and my prayer tonight for our listeners is that those of us that are around this table right now, this podcast, this that we have, we're given to you through the Holy.

Chris Hoyer: 40:05

Spirit of God and impartation. We are dispersing in the spirit revival and awakening to you right now.

Chris Hoyer: 40:14

You're hearing our voice but you're experiencing his spirit. Whether you're on your couch, in your bedroom, where you're at at your kitchen table, wherever that may be, the spirit of God is invading you. That they reached down. Look that man in the eye. They lifted him up. He was totally healed. He was walking, leaping and praising God, and so I thank you that that is happening right now. You've had an urgency. You have had a desperation. Right now, you've had an urgency. You have had a desperation.

Chris Hoyer: 40:46

You've been listening to us and you've said I've never experienced what these men have experienced. Well, you're experiencing now. There is a release in the spirit and it's in your house, and it's not just in your house. He said out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water, and you're sensing the rivers of living water. And you're sensing the rivers of living water refreshing you, renewing you. And he said he would send his fire, and so I just pray that you would be fired up about what God's doing in your life, what you've heard through this podcast, and just receive what the spirit of God is.

Chris Hoyer: 41:18

Don't be afraid of it, don't run from it. Embrace it. Let it change you, let it transform you. Let it change you, let it transform you, let it renew you, let it redeem you, let it revive you. Just let it set you on fire and you may not understand everything about it. But get with your friends, get with your church, get with people that you know and say, hey, I had an experience. I was listening to a podcast with these guys and God came down and and touched me right in my, in my front room, right right in the bathroom, right where I was. I feel different, don't know what it is. That's revival, that's awakening, that's renewal.

Dan Wermuth: 41:53

And take it to your work.

Chris Hoyer: 41:54

Take it to your family, take it to your church, take it to your community. Rise up, rise up in the spirit of God. I just pray that it's released on our listeners in the name of. Jesus. Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord.

Kim McIntire: 42:09

Thank you, jesus, and it is in your holy, holy, holy name, jesus, that we pray these things Amen, amen. Thank you, pastor Dave, pastor DM, pastor Chris, thank you so much for being here.

David Pizinger: 42:22

Thanks for having us. Thanks, God bless you. Thank you listeners.

Kim McIntire: 42:27

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