Prepare For Revival Part 1 - with Pastors Chris Hoyer, Dan Wermuth, and David Pizinger - 22

What if the revival we're seeking isn't about one church getting noticed, but about God's presence covering the earth? Three pastors with decades of ministry experience gather to share their vision for spiritual awakening in our time.

Chris Hoyer, Dan Wermuth, and Dave Pizinger bring powerful personal testimonies to this conversation about what revival truly means. From Dave's dramatic conversion story—transforming from drug dealer to pastor after an encounter with Christ—to stories of unity emerging from disaster in Joplin, Missouri, their experiences illuminate how God moves in both individual hearts and entire communities.

The pastors unpack biblical patterns of revival through Jonah's reluctant ministry to Nineveh and Nehemiah's wall-rebuilding project. They highlight how true revival begins with humility, crosses denominational lines, and focuses on lifting Jesus rather than promoting individual churches. Perhaps most encouraging is their report that the fastest-growing demographic purchasing physical Bibles today is 15-25 year olds—a sign that younger generations are hungering for truth in an age of hypocrisy.

This conversation challenges believers to recognize that revival isn't just something to hope for in the distant future—it's happening now in various expressions worldwide. The question isn't whether God is moving, but whether we'll participate by surrendering our hearts, uniting despite our differences, and contending for His presence.

Ready to experience revival yourself? Join us at the Rise Up Conference on August 1-2 at the Keeter Center near Branson, Missouri. Use code PODCAST15 for a special listener discount when you register at itstimetoriseup.org.

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome and Introductions
• 8:45 Personal Journeys to Faith
• 14:08 Revival Stories and Testimonies
• 21:43 Biblical Patterns of Revival
• 28:08 Unity Across Denominations
• 34:08 Rise Up Conference and Vision

Transcript

Kim McIntire: 0:08

Hey everyone, welcome to the it's Time to Rise Up podcast. I'm your host, Kim McIntire. We know there are so many things you can do with your time, so thank you for choosing to spend your time listening today. We pray you are encouraged and blessed by what is shared. If you're not familiar with our show, check out our website at itstimetoriseup. org, where you will find our social media links and, as for our podcast platforms, you can find us on YouTube, apple Podcasts, Spotify and everywhere else you find your podcast. We also want to remind our listeners that our annual Rise Up conference is August 1st and 2nd at the Keeter Center near Branson, Missouri. There is a discount for our podcast listeners. Just enter podcast15 when you go to the website to register. We can't wait to see you there.

Kim McIntire: 0:57

We are here to talk about revival. I want to welcome Chris Hoyer, Dan Wermuth and Dave Pizinger. I know each of you are ministers of the gospel as well as men who believe and pray for revival for our churches, nation and world. Thank you so much for being here today. I'm going to have each one of you just tell a little bit about yourselves so our audience can know more about you. Chris, why don't you start? Welcome back. By the way, you have been on the podcast before. I'm glad you're back.

Chris Hoyer: 1:26

Yeah, excited about being here.

Chris Hoyer: 1:28

Me too, as Kim said, my name is Chris Hoyer and I currently serve as the Director of Mission Operations at Water Garden Ministries in Joplin, Missouri, and I started there in 2018. And prior to that, I served 15 and a half years in corporate world at Jack Henry and Associates in Monett, Missouri. But ministry is really what's kind of been that fabric, that thread that's run through my life for a long time, and I've had the privilege of serving in pastoral ministry, bi-vocational ministry, for over 30 years different communities in Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas and beyond that. I'm thankful for my wife of 38 years. We've done here in July 17th it'll be 38 years, and so we've done ministry together and pursued the Lord and blessed with three children and eight grandchildren.

Kim McIntire: 2:30

So that's a busy life. That's a busy life. God's been good. Yes, so good. Thank you, chris. How about you, pastor Dan?

Dan Wermuth: 2:37

Hey, it's an honor to be with you. Thank you for inviting us to be here and get to be here with my friends and talk about revival and what God's doing in the earth, especially right here in the four state area, which is really historically a marker and an altar for revival. So, I'm gloriously blessed to be part of that.

Kim McIntire: 2:59

Well, thank you so much for saying yes.

Dan Wermuth: 3:01

Oh, you're welcome. You know my mantra about just say yes and what God can do with that. I was born into a home where my mom and dad were missionaries to Native Americans and was raised serving and knowing the Lord and serving from a young age, but had my first encounter with Christ at seven. Wow, baptized in the Holy Spirit at 10. And then, you know, working with mom and dad in church and serving and teaching and preaching along the way. So revival has always been like a theme of my parents. They were just, their heart was for a move of God in their family. They had five sons, and I'm the oldest of five boys and so mom was a fasting woman, fasted probably 40 days, three different times, I don't know how many 21 days and 10 day fast, and it's what got me, my wife and my brother Mike's wife, and then she made me and Mike fast for our brother Joe, for him to get his wife, and so mom made us and taught us how to fast.

Kim McIntire: 4:08

Anyway a revival. That's a legacy.

Dan Wermuth: 4:09

Yeah, I get. 20 years ago I was called to come here to this community and pastor a congregation that was birthed in revival in 1930. So I feel like I'm. You know, I was born in Michigan and raised there, but I made it to Missouri to be part of what God's doing.

Kim McIntire: 4:29

That's right, that's right. You know great revival.

Dan Wermuth: 4:32

You know, like Chris, I married the greatest gift after salvation, my wife Cindy, who has been such a gift to us, and so our three sons serving the Lord, and I'm believing God for grandkids, and I'm really hoping that the Hoyers will, you know, lay hands on me and pray for that to happen in the very near future for me.

Kim McIntire: 4:54

So let it be so, Lord. Let it be so in Jesus name.

Dan Wermuth: 4:58

That's great, but I'm really thank you for the opportunity to be here, because we're going to talk about revival and my friend, friend David Biesinger, is sitting right there.

Kim McIntire: 5:07

He's got great things on the inside of him. Yes, Welcome Dave. Tell us about yourself, Dave.

Dave Pizinger: 5:13

It's a honor to be here today, just to be able to spread the gospel and let God be exalted. That's right. I'm a heathen saved by grace and my salvation came at a revival. Oh wow, from being kicked out at 15 in Wichita, kansas, to becoming a major drug dealer. From a drug dealer, I got into New Age. From New Age I ran from the cartel in 1980 and came to Missouri, found a house on 20 acres and decided to grow my crops there.

Kim McIntire: 5:44

Oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh my goodness, this is all news to me. I did not know any of this. We didn't know you had a green thumb. Wow, yeah, that's the surprising part you ought to see my garden now. Oh, my goodness.

Dave Pizinger: 5:55

But anyway, I came here in 1980. I met a girl in 1982 that was a Jehovah's Witness and became a Jehovah's Witness knocking on doors for eight and a half years and then went to what we called a camp meeting. I was set up by God and while I was there I was mad. I wanted to fight. I was disappointed in what I saw, because they were speaking in tongues and raising their hands and using instruments and that was all taboo to me. Right, and a lady stood up and started speaking in tongues or singing in tongues, and I said that's definitely of the devil. Then she started translating the song in English and something happened in my heart. Wow. And so he preached a sermon on every denomination will kill you. Christ is the only thing that will save you. Wow, and at the end of the service. I had talked to him in the beginning of the service and he told me that actually. And at the end of the service he stood up and said oh, you believe Jesus came, died and rose for your sins? Stand up. Well, that's the last thing I was going to do. I was mad. God took the people and pardoned them, like the Red Sea. He's standing on the pulpit. I'm sitting in the pew. He pointed me out and he said look. He said I believe you believe that Jesus came, jesus died and Jesus rose for your sins. He said you get your hand up.

Dave Pizinger: 7:10

At that moment I was gritting, my teeth red in my face, arms crossed and my little finger came up. And when my little finger came up I went into shock, literal shock, spiritual shock. My hand came up and I saw it go up and the service is over. There was no going to the altar, there was none of that. We got in the car and we're driving back from Grove and my girlfriend, which is now 33 years, my wife oh my goodness, and we're all quiet. And I looked in front seat and I said did you know? Jehovah's Witnesses are called in Jesus Christ as Lord of his witness is a cult and Jesus Christ is Lord.

Kim McIntire: 7:45

The heavens open.

Dave Pizinger: 7:46

Mighty, rushing wind just came into my being and literally changed me Narcissism, drugs, alcohol, immorality, cussing, control went away.

Kim McIntire: 7:57

Praise God.

Dave Pizinger: 7:58

That was my first revival.

Kim McIntire: 8:00

Praise God, that's a good revival.

Dave Pizinger: 8:02

I was revived. Oh my goodness. So that was November of 91. November 95, I took on a pastoral role called the Glorious Church out of the Book of Ephesians. And I've been pastoring off and on since then. My wife went through a stroke. We stepped down for a season, but we're back.

Kim McIntire: 8:19

That's amazing. To God be the glory. I'm glad you mentioned Glorious Church, Pastor Dan pastors Joplin Family Worship Center in Joplin, Missouri. Both of those churches are located in Joplin, Missouri, which is our hometown, I think for most of us. I'm on.

Dan Wermuth: 8:33

West 7th and he's on East 7th, that's right. We got both gates of the city.

Kim McIntire: 8:38

That's right.

Dan Wermuth: 8:39

The East and the West Praise the Lord.

Kim McIntire: 8:49

And Water Garden. The west praise the lord and water garden splits you right down in the middle on seventh street. You're all positioned on seventh. The heart of god is at water gardens. That's pretty, yeah, that's for sure. That's pretty interesting. Well, thank you so much for just sharing a little bit about yourselves. We just want to jump in with just this question about um, how could you share just with us your heart for seeing a move of God in terms of revival? Like, what does God have stirring in your heart right now regarding revival, or a great awakening?

Dan Wermuth: 9:17

Chris. Wow, because I see revival on your life. So that's the reason why I'm saying Chris.

Chris Hoyer: 9:26

Oh yeah, there's just a lot going on in our land right now.

Kim McIntire: 9:31

Yeah.

Chris Hoyer: 9:32

And I'm not going to say that our churches are not alive, because I believe they are, but I think they could be more alive?

Dan Wermuth: 9:40

Yes, sir.

Chris Hoyer: 9:42

Yes, sir, and these guys kind of shared their story there at the beginning. But you know I didn't believe in a lot of the things I believe in today and I just remember attending this church with Holly on a Sunday night at a revival and just want to get in and get out and yeah next thing.

Chris Hoyer: 10:02

I know I leave when I when I left, I had been filled with the Holy Spirit and run a few laps around the church and told I was going to lead thousands to the Lord and pastor. And you know I want the same thing for other people and you know. So I look at our land today. I just see a culture full of confusion. I see the political climate and challenges and the compromise and there's just so many opportunities. I don't say that in a negative way, but there are opportunities for us and I just want to see people have the same experiences that all three of us shared. And I just remember going to church and having these soaking services in worship or being able to go to an altar and dig a well and set a table. Sometimes I was crying, sometimes I was celebrating, but just I want to see that for folks. I want to see them.

Chris Hoyer: 11:11

You know, it's great to hear the word, it's great to worship, it's great to grow in the maturity of the word, but I want to see people experience Jesus, experience the Holy Spirit, know that they know, understand their calling and their purpose, and it not just be a going to church and paying a tithe or serving, but actually feeling activated and operating in the kingdom.

Chris Hoyer: 11:40

And it doesn't require a title of a pastor. It just requires the title of somebody being hungry and on fire and full of Jesus and going out and winning people for the Lord in just their everyday life, and that's what I really desire to see, just at a grassroots level. We go out to Facebook, we go out to all these platforms and we see these large ministries, great ministries, great pastors, but when I read my Bible, that's not what I saw. What I saw was Jesus and some disciples moving from town to town, engaging people on their way and impacting their lives with the word of God, and not just the Word of God, because the Word of God says we're to be a demonstration of power. That's right, and I want to see people operating in that way, with a demonstration of power.

Kim McIntire: 12:35

That's so beautiful, so good.

Dave Pizinger: 12:37

And I think too that when the church gets its passion back, when the church gets that hunger back, when the church gets that fire back, when the church gets that hunger back, when the church gets that fire back, there'll be a love that goes beyond the doctrinal beliefs. There'll be such a presence of God. There is just a love of God that begins to saturate the body of Christ, that takes down denominational names, that takes titles away and brings a unity that Jesus prayed in John 17, that we would be one as he is one. And without a real move or an encounter with God it's going to be very hard for many to actually experience that.

Kim McIntire: 13:22

And.

Dave Pizinger: 13:22

I think right now the Church of America needs it more than ever. Revivals are breaking out all over the world. Millions are coming to Christ. They're having experiences with Jesus. They're having encounters.

Dave Pizinger: 13:32

The biggest revival going on right now is Iran, because of the persecution you know. They're tired of seeing their wives or their children shot on the street because they have chose to take the veil off or whatever else. But they've got a passion, they've got a hunger that they want to. They want to, they want to experience the real God, not this superficial God, not this doctrinal God, not this, you know, made up God. But they want to experience the real God and I think I think that's my heart right now is I want to see the church experience the real God, the real God that created, the real God that gave his son, the real God that poured his spirit out and gave us that empowerment to have that zeal to move beyond what we're capable of doing and stepping into what he's doing and what is he doing. He's taken people like us that don't have it all together but trust the one that does. And when we trust the one that does, then miracles happen, salvation happens, restoration happens, deliverance happens, and we need it more than anything else.

Dan Wermuth: 14:37

Jesus talked about ten virgins, so we know that they are identified as set apart and they are waiting for the bridegroom to come. And the night draws on and so all 10 fall into a slumber. All 10 fall to sleep. We hear the friend of the bridegroom, which is by. You know, many Bible scholars believe the friend of the bridegroom is the Holy Spirit, calling for an awakening. Yeah, so they all awaken.

Dan Wermuth: 15:10

Five have oil, Five don't. Ultimately, five have to go find oil and buy it and they come back only to find that the other five, who were ready, remember they were slumbering, they were awakened and now they're ready and they enter in and the thought might be that the church around the globe is in its awakening time. I think we are in the midst of a great awakening and there's also slumbering. That's been happening. You know there's a slumbering spirit. Barna just released some numbers that the fastest growing demographic buying Bibles physical Bibles, like one I have in my hand or the one on my, you know, my phone or my device that people right now the fastest demographic is 15 to 25.

Dan Wermuth: 16:04

Who would imagine that it's incredible 15 to 25. I would say that it's incredible 15 to 25. I would say that's a marker of revival.

Kim McIntire: 16:11

Yeah.

Dan Wermuth: 16:12

And the further question then that was asked is why are 15 to 25 year olds buying Bibles to read, or you know, on their apps so that they can can see what God's saying, can see what God's saying? It's because they're disgusted with a hypocrisy of a supposed righteousness by people in their 30s and older who call themselves awake but they're really not. They're slumbering in their behaviors and there's no real justice that they see. And so there's a hunger. And these are not people who are necessarily saved, but 15 to 25 looking for truth. Yes, kim, yes, I think that's one benchmark of an awakening that's happening in the earth.

Kim McIntire: 17:01

Yes.

Dan Wermuth: 17:01

Lord and the church that has slumbered has been awakened. Some are still slumbering, some do not have the capacity. They're going to need to go look for oil.

Dan Wermuth: 17:09

I hope they can get back in time, but there have been great awakenings historically in America, and they were not at times where everything was fine and pleasant.

Dan Wermuth: 17:21

You know the first great awakening 1730s, during a great time of horrific behaviors on the part of people, godlessness in the nation, and the Lord visited this nation through that move of God. That happened. So Jonathan Edwards, george Whitefield, you know, preaching in such a way that impacted and changed the course of our nation, yes, and then a whole nother revival. You know it's 1790s, through the 1840s, with Charles Finney and others who continued to call for a hunger for God. And what we noticed in that second great awakening, there were intercessors, like yourselves, who were praying and God's presence was going before the person who would deliver the word, father Nash, that intercessor for Charles Finney would pray and people would fall out in the spirit in bars while a train carrying Charles Finney is just driving going through the town and the drunkards didn't even know what happened to them. Or falling out in the mud in the streets because the presence of God was on a messenger, because an intercessor had prayed and sought the Lord. Up, awaken, awaken, church, trim your lamps.

Dan Wermuth: 18:46

Holy Spirit, oil, fire ignited and be on the ready for this amazing moment that we're called to. And it's not the great escape, it's really the great harvest. Yes, which we've been talking about, you know, in these days, For God so loved the world, he wasn't willing that any should perish right. That's right For God so loved the world he wasn't willing that any should perish. Right, that's right For God. So loved the world, he gave his only begotten son. So I'm convinced that revival is happening in the earth.

Dan Wermuth: 19:14

And what is my responsibility personally to pursue that revival in me, for my wife, for my house, my sons, for the congregation that I serve, for the ministries that I also serve by extension, and whatever leadership capacity, if we will do so on a personal level and really cast off that slumbering spirit that has been there. Chris mentioned something before we came on air about Jonah in Nineveh that was so powerful. I was hoping he'd unpack that a little bit.

Chris Hoyer: 19:47

I will Please do. I will Thank you, as you posed the question to us and I was thinking about it. When I read the Bible I see what I consider that first awakening in Jonah chapter three and you know, I believe awakening a lot of times can happen, first before revival. And in Jonah three, verse five, it says the people of Nineveh believed God, they proclaimed a fast, they dressed in sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least of them. And then we see in verses 6 through 10 where it talks about the king humbling himself. It talks about him issuing a decree to everyone to fast, to repent, and how God responded with mercy and there was this genuine turning from evil.

Chris Hoyer: 20:45

And I began to dig into that a little bit and find some things out that I didn't even know. But it talks about the number of people. They say that there was anywhere from 600,000 to a million people in Nineveh and when we read the word it talks about 120,000 children and they kind of base the numbers off of that. So it was large, that's right. It refers to the greatest of them, to the least and so forth. But what's so powerful was that they heeded to the warning and they didn't let their pride get in the way.

Chris Hoyer: 21:24

The warning, and they didn't let their pride get in the way and they heeded the warning. They responded, they didn't argue they, they didn't delay, they didn't get puffed up. They humbled themselves. They fasted, they repented they, they cried out for mercy. They recognize that sin. They turned to God and, um, there was a revival. I mean a revival I mean a revival broke out that city. It changed, the people changed, and that's what I see for our nation right now.

Chris Hoyer: 22:01

To me it's a very similar situation, and I believe that that's what God wants to do through the power of our Holy Spirit. He doesn't want to see more division anymore. He is wanting to see this collective turning back to him, and it thrills me to hear what Pastor Dan shared about this young age beginning to younger age. Read the word, reading the word, they're going to respond to the word and you know, wow, that brings a lot of encouragement. Looking for truth, that's it.

Dan Wermuth: 22:31

And that they saw the Bible as the place where they would find it, because social media has not given them truth. It's so true. It just presented other things. You know, when you talk about Jonah, he's the reluctant revivalist. Yes, the reluctant revivalist.

Dan Wermuth: 22:45

Yeah, I mean Reluctant revivalist. A reluctant revivalist. If you read the scripture you know he didn't like the people of Nineveh. He did just as soon God, kill them. Lord, help the church, help Christians who are so reluctant. They just as soon let the world go to hell in a handbasket instead of obeying God. Thank God for a whale.

Dan Wermuth: 23:04

That's right, you know and for a change of heart and because God loved Nineveh, he wanted to show the world his mercy, and this is before Calvary. So since Calvary and since the upper room, how much the more is the mercy of God being released in the earth. So I don't want to be a reluctant revivalist and I think every believer needs to be a revivalist. We need to stir revival.

Chris Hoyer: 23:34

Well, jonah, he wanted to go back and preach where it was easy. That's why he went back, and God didn't call us to preach and teach where it was easy.

Dan Wermuth: 23:42

So you know that picture you just talked about, with here's Jonah going to a different city. What about Nehemiah you were talking about?

Dave Pizinger: 23:53

Nehemiah and his heart to see the rebuilding of a community of faith. Which actually takes us to what happened in Joplin, missouri. Yeah, we had a group of pastors that we were meeting with, and I'd say probably 25 pastors, and we were meeting weekly, every week, week which I'm actually still carrying on, that pastoral meeting, thank you for carrying the mantle yeah, but, um, we knew that there needed to be a move of god in our region and we knew that god wants to move in our region.

Dave Pizinger: 24:18

And so we came together and began to pray and ask god, what does that look like? And we had an elderly gentleman come to us and says god spoke to my heart and gave me a dream and said let's rebuild the walls. And so we came together and said, well, how do we do this? You know what? What is the format in which we can? We can bring in the different denominations without doctrinal debates or, you know, interference from one view versus another. And we all agreed it was souls. Yeah, god's heart in revival is souls anyway, amen.

Dave Pizinger: 24:47

And so we knocked on pastor's doors for 18 months telling them about this, this great awakening that's coming. We want you to be a part of it. We want you to bring in lost souls with you. And so we ended up getting a Baptist pastor from Las Vegas, nevada, to come. Because it was common ground. We decided that we were going to use the stadium at MSSU, which they were so gracious to let us use, and we brought him in on the basis of soul. So when the pastors came, they didn't bring souls, they bring curiosity. Yeah, they did.

Dave Pizinger: 25:18

And that's what we have now right now with revival, you know how it's going to break out and what it really looks like.

Dave Pizinger: 25:28

There's a curiosity and the people are hearing right now that they've got that curiosity. What are they going to say next? I'll tell you what happened next. The first night we talked on souls. Nobody went forward because everybody was pretty well saved. So the second night we decided that we'd talk to this Baptist pastor and say well, let's bring unity back to the body of Christ, let's start crossing these denominational barriers, and we'll start asking let's bring unity back to the body of Christ, let's start crossing these denominational barriers, and we'll start asking him to bring a conviction upon their hearts for any kind of unforgiveness that we might have one towards another. That night the tarmac got full, the spirit of God just dropped and pastors are crying and they're asking them to forgive one another. It was amazing to watch this happen. Third night, same thing and the revival was over. But one year later came the tornado. Yeah, and because of what was planted in that moment, in that time, awakening was a heart of unity.

Dave Pizinger: 26:23

Yes, and when it came, the storm, churches started opening their doors, yes, and inviting other pastors in to host their congregations yes, and it broke loose.

Dan Wermuth: 26:33

We helped one another, we did. We served one another. We did. We empowered one another. That's right. Our resources that came my way went whoever else's way.

Kim McIntire: 26:42

Right.

Dan Wermuth: 26:42

In order that we could serve the body of Christ and the community, and people saw the face of Jesus in our recovery, because that revival was a revival of unity, bringing hearts together.

Dan Wermuth: 26:57

So because we found the banner of Jesus to be the one we could all stand under, and the lost being one, and then unity being the, the motivation, the vehicle of it. I would say, kim, there that's one picture of a revival that um really gave us platform to see people saved and come to christ during the recovery time, and thousands and thousands of people came to christ who had either never been to church or were out of church because a church hurt or just, you know, got out of the habit, and then you know the Church of Jesus Christ is responding to people in this community and that gave revival of people returning to the Lord in the midst of the recovery time.

Dan Wermuth: 27:43

And so revival has different takes on different expressions, but it's always about awakening the heart of the individual, isn't it?

Kim McIntire: 27:52

Yes.

Dan Wermuth: 27:53

Absolutely. I really like the way. A moment ago, what was being said by Pastor Dave was that Nehemiah component rebuilding the walls. There was a lot of work for Nehemiah not just the physical building of his city to get worship again, because wherever the presence of God was, then the people of God in that day would have protection and blessing and prosperity. So there needed to be a physical, you know, joining together. But he had to deal with so many challenges inside the church or the congregation of the Lord and from outside in order for there to be revival. And there was.

Dan Wermuth: 28:35

There's this moment where the word of God is being read and the people start to weep and mourn and the priest and Nehemiah they said stop your crying. You know, don't, don't cry, Don't weep, Don't mourn. Listen, go home, make a big dinner, provide food for people, celebrate, for this day is holy to the Lord. What was holy about that moment? What was holy about it is that the word of God had revived the hearts of the people, that they would want to serve the Lord. You have a vision, with Rise Up, for people's hearts to literally be surrendered again to the Lord, Am I right?

Dan Wermuth: 29:14

Yes, yes, absolutely and that we would find him again in our personal lives, and then how that literally overflows into every other relationship.

Kim McIntire: 29:23

It's so true. It's so true, it's so true. The Rise Up Conference, august 1st and 2nd. Our theme is revival. I hate to put the word theme with it, but the truth is that's what we're telling people.

Kim McIntire: 29:37

This is a revival conference. We want people to come with expectation, with a hunger to see God move in ways they haven't seen him move before, and we believe that part of revival is people experiencing the manifest presence of God and knowing the glory of the Lord is in the room. And when the glory of the Lord is in the room, where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom, there is liberty. So we believe people are going to be set free. We believe people are going to be set on fire, their hearts burning for God in ways they never thought were even possible, and it's going to happen.

Kim McIntire: 30:14

I mean, we're praying, we're fasting, we're believing, we're talking to other people about revival and you guys, being here just is just one of the many things God is doing to prepare people, yes, to be there August 1st and to come expectant. And these all these, you know, references to biblical references, nehemiah, the, the 10 virgins, yes, jonah and Nineveh these are just the layers and there's so much more God wants to do. He's done so much, but there's so much more God wants to do, and it's for now. Revival is now. It's now so.

Dan Wermuth: 30:52

I'm excited If I can tell you this. I appreciate that Rise Up is a movement or a motivation or an activation. Motivation or an activation? Um so there are pastors who beg God let their church be the next place where he puts his finger of blessing, so that somehow that validates everything they think they've gone through. That's been hard, or?

Dan Wermuth: 31:17

whatever and they want the next great quote revival they, you know. So they can basically brand it as we have an encounter with the Lord and we've seen God visit places that were hungry. But there are people who see that and think I want that from my place so that I can be seen. But those places he visited he didn't visit because they wanted to be seen, it's because they were on their face, they were hungry. So what I love about Rise Up is that it's a movement that's motivating a heart to surrender the Lord, saying let it be corporate across the whole body of Christ. And that's where pastors, you know, in 14 years, 15 years ago, they're repenting for unity. 14 years, 15 years ago, the repenting for unity.

Dan Wermuth: 32:02

How about a fresh repenting from shepherds and leaders that not my house, Lord, our houses, all, all the places where the people of God gather, may there be a move of God and if we will contend each of us are contending in our areas of our assignments contend for the presence of God, of our assignments. Contend for the presence of God, but do so now, in this day that it's not for just one spot that he's touching, but it's the first drop of the rain and deluge of God, if you might use that that pours out like a mighty river of God or a great outpouring of the Lord.

Dan Wermuth: 32:40

Elijah had a fire on Carmel, right you know there's this fire that comes down on the Lord. Elijah had a fire on Carmel, right, you know there's this fire that comes down on the altar. I think sometimes pastors think in terms of I want to be the next Mount Carmel and the next fire down, but mad it be what the scripture said, that literally the presence of the Lord would cover the earth even as the waters cover the sea. That's a different picture, that's a corporate picture. So rise up, oh sons and daughters of God, awaken from your slumber.

Kim McIntire: 33:08

And I love. One of the things I love about Rise Up is its goal is to cross denominational lines. One of its goals that there is unity in the body of Christ and there's not just a name. You know above it, you know as far as a denomination and you spoke to that so well because we're going outside the walls of a church and we're saying revival. You know, it doesn't happen in a church all the time. Sometimes it does, but revivals can happen in places like Nineveh, you know, and so that's one of the beautiful parts of Rise Up is it's not contained. You know, and we're hoping people from all denominations come, people who've never experienced a move of the Holy Spirit are there and they are captivated by that moment the DNAs that I notice about Rise Up is that you do not speak about denominations or church backgrounds, as if they are separate and divided.

Dan Wermuth: 34:11

I appreciate that you don't speak to that, like some people are trying to say, we need to break down the denominational barriers. I honestly think if we would lift the banner of Jesus, if we would contend for his presence, then all of God's sons and daughters will find connection and unity and then I can celebrate the backgrounds of every brother and sister that I have who came from some different stream. That's right. Whatever stream they came from, or whatever group or camp, I celebrate that. They brought part of revival in particular times and seasons of life, and so we celebrate it. I'm not going to, you know, speak down to it. I want to enhance it. I grow from that. Cross-pollination is important, but you've identified that what God is doing in the earth right now is he's calling his sons and daughters to rise up and have an encounter with the living God and the person of Holy Spirit. That'll bring the great harvest that has been called for in this day.

Dan Wermuth: 35:12

And you know we are the ones with that assignment.

Kim McIntire: 35:15

It's true, my mom and dad moved to heaven already, so we're the ones with that assignment Rise up, you know.

Dave Pizinger: 35:22

You look at Isaiah 60. It's a rise and shine. Yeah, it's getting up higher. Yeah, it's seeing things from God's view.

Kim McIntire: 35:30

That's right, that's so good.

Dan Wermuth: 35:32

I like that verse.

Kim McIntire: 35:33

Oh, I love that verse. It's so good. This concludes part one of this episode on revival, and we would encourage you to stay tuned and listen in in two weeks when our next episode drops. Thank you for listening today. Again, we would encourage you to check out our website at itstimetoriseuporg and you can find our social media platforms there. May God's grace and peace be with you through Jesus Christ, our Lord.