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Abide Class Five - Isaiah 53 - 20
The ancient prophecy of Isaiah 53 reveals a love story more profound than any Hollywood romance. When God spoke these words to the prophet Isaiah, Jesus was already there, knowing every detail of the suffering that awaited Him centuries later—yet He still chose to come for us.
This powerful episode unpacks the rich layers of meaning in what many consider the most significant messianic prophecy in Scripture. We explore how Jesus grew "like a root out of dry ground," demonstrating God's ability to bring spiritual life from the most barren circumstances. They discuss how the "arm of the Lord"—representing His strength, protection and comfort—becomes available to believers through relationship with Christ.
The conversation takes a candid turn when panel members share personal stories of learning to remain silent when wrongfully accused, following Jesus' example of humble strength. This countercultural approach—choosing not to defend oneself—challenges our natural instincts but often leads to unexpected resolution and peace.
Perhaps most striking is the revelation that Isaiah 53 describes a complete "atonement package" for humanity. Christ's blood purchased salvation for our souls, His punishment secured our peace with God, and His wounds provide for our physical healing. We emphasize that these benefits are free gifts, available through grace rather than works.
The episode concludes with a powerful invitation to know Jesus personally—not just facts about Him, but to experience His life-transforming love. Whether you've walked with Him for decades or are just beginning to explore faith, this conversation will deepen your understanding of Christ's sacrifice and inspire you to embrace the countercultural values of the Kingdom: sacrifice instead of self-promotion, submission instead of demanding rights, and surrender to God's perfect will.
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Hey everyone, welcome to the it's Time to Rise Up podcast. I'm your host, Kim McIntyre. We know there are so many things you can do with your time, so thank you for choosing to spend your time listening today. We pray you are encouraged and blessed by what is shared. If you're not familiar with our show, please check out our website at itstimeteriseuporg, where you will find our social media links. And as for our podcast platforms, you can find us on YouTube, apple Podcasts, spotify and everywhere else you find your podcast. We want to remind our listeners that our annual Rise Up conference is August 1st and 2nd at the Keter Center near Branson, missouri. There's a discount for our podcast listeners. Just enter podcast15 when you go to our website to register. I can't wait to see you there. Welcome back to the studio.
Kim McIntire:Laurel Weick, Charity Degonia and JoBeth Ellis. So glad you abide. Friends, we're willing to come back for some time in the Word and prayer. Today we are opening Isaiah 53, and we're seeking the Lord, and it's a joy to have all three of you amazing ladies back tonight. Isaiah 53, what a chapter. This chapter has so many layers An Old Testament prophecy being fulfilled, surrender, suffering, selfless submission to God, the Father, and a sacrifice I can't even comprehend. Ultimately, though, this text reveals the deep, deep love of God for people. So join us by getting your Bible and taking some notes. Prepare your heart now to connect to God's Word and learn more about Christ as you abide in Him. Laurel, would you open us in prayer, absolutely.
Laurel Wike:Lord, we come to you in the name of Jesus and we thank you for the privilege of gathering together today as sisters and Father, we thank you for all the listeners who are joining with us today and we thank you, God, that as we spend time in your word, you will grow us in wisdom and knowledge and understanding. God, we just open our hearts before you and we thank you that you will plant seeds of truth that will grow. Lord, we ask for humility and gratitude and all the things, Lord, and we ask for opportunities, all the things that come forth today, in this time together, that you would give us opportunities then to go and share them with others, Father, and just to continue to spread the beauty and the truth of your word. And we ask these things all in the mighty and holy name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
Kim McIntire:Amen. Isaiah 53,. We're going to open that by reading it aloud. If you're able to grab your Bible, we would invite you to do that. Charity's going to read out loud for us. What version are you in tonight? Charity, the Christian Standard.
Charity Degonia:Awesome, yep, all right, who has believed what we have heard and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? He grew up before him like a young plant and like a root out of dry ground. He didn't have an impressive form or majesty that we should look at him, no appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men. A man of suffering who knew what sickness was. He was like someone people turned away from. He was despised and we didn't value him. Yet he himself bore our sickness and he carried our pains. But we in turn regarded him stricken, struck down by God and afflicted. But he was pierced because of our rebellion, crushed because of our iniquities. Punishment for our peace was on him and we are healed by his wounds. We all went astray like sheep. We all have turned to our own way and the Lord has punished him for the iniquity of us all.
Charity Degonia:He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth. Like a lamb, led to slaughter and like a sheep, silent before her shearers, he did not open his mouth. He was taken away because of oppression and judgment. And who considered his fate? For he was cut off from the land of the living. He was struck because of my people's rebellion. He was assigned a grave with the wicked. But he was with a rich man at his death because he had done no violence and had not spoken deceitfully. Yet the Lord was pleased to crush him severely. When you make him a guilt offering, he will see his seed, he will prolong his days and by his hand the Lord's pleasure will be accomplished. After his anguish, he will see light and be satisfied by his knowledge. My righteous servant will justify many and he will carry their iniquities. Therefore I will give him the many as a portion and he will receive the mighty as spoil, because Amen.
Kim McIntire:What a word. What a rich word. What a rich word when we approach the word together. What we're asking God is just Lord. What do you want us to know for our mind and for our heart, and how do we live that out? So, with that question, who would like to begin? Just a response to God's word.
Laurel Wike:I would love to jump in because I rarely make it past the first verse with this question, and that is true in this case. And I have the New Living Translation in front of me and it just says who has believed? Our message Obviously the same idea, but that left me asking the question what is the message that we're wondering about? Who has believed? And to get the answer to that, I just moved back a few verses into Isaiah 52. And he will again startle many nations. Kings will stand speechless in his presence, for they will see what they had not previously been told about, they will understand what they had not heard about.
Laurel Wike:And I just think it's so interesting. We've talked about how this can be a heavy chapter with what Christ went through for us, and yet the ultimate message of this chapter is that look on the one who's been bloodied and beaten, who's barely recognizable, and yet God's plan for him is that he will prosper and he will be highly exalted, and there's so much hope in that. That's the story of Jesus, but that's what he does in each one of our lives as well, and verse 11 is one of my favorites that when he sees all that is accomplished by His anguish, he will be satisfied.
Laurel Wike:And I think that's something that we can just know is true of our circumstances as well and that whatever we may be walking through, whatever challenge and actually when I was reading this, we were in a very challenging for the first time we were in a very challenging business situation a situation and just paralleling you know, of course not an exact parallel to what Jesus walked through, but we all have our circumstances in life where we can relate to this, where we feel like, you know, people look on me and they're judging me, or you know just all the things.
Laurel Wike:We all think, we know what's going on and formulate opinions. And the Lord said hey, just like I did in Jesus's life, this is my promise over your lives as well. You know, I think of the Psalm that says I would have despaired if I didn't believe I would see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living and that he wants to prosper His servants and bring them to that place of being highly exalted, sometimes in this life, sometimes in the next life, but that there's so much hope in the context of death. The end game of death is always resurrection, life when we're walking in the kingdom Victory ultimate victory.
Charity Degonia:I found a lot of this stuff. I'm going to jump in Right after that line in verse 1, it says and my version says Whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? And that stuck out to me. I was like, why is it the arm of the Lord? And if we think I'm kind of a visual person, my husband's arms around me, what does that mean? You know, god's arms around me, it's that strength. Right, god reveals His strength. Right, he reveals His arms, says I've got power for you, like the power that we get to tap into. There's protection there, there's a comfort there. And so in what you're saying with the hope, it's like, okay, so here's the message and here's all the suffering that he went through, but here's the arm of the Lord on Him. He's not alone, his arms are around us and it's going to be revealed. We're going to know that power, the strength, the protection. He's making us strong, you know in that. So I loved that part because I'm like, right off the bat, he's like my arm is on, my hand is on you, my arms are around you, and I loved that part.
Charity Degonia:But right after that, in verse two, it says he grew up like a young plant and abide in the whole vine and being a plant and being planted and the strength that all of that means to me. I was like he grew up and it says, like a root out of dry ground, and so again, I'm visual, so I want to know more about this root. And why is it dry ground? Because things don't grow in dry ground, right. I mean they need to be watered and we need to be planted in fertile soil and fertile places. But it actually refers, from what I understand from studying, to Galilee where he grew up being dry with there was no spiritual things, and so it's dry. Spiritually, it was dry politically, it was a low living standard, and so God was like, look what I did with Jesus he didn't have to have all of those things around him for me to grow him up out of those places. And so many of us have been to that dry place right where we feel like how is God going to use this situation? How is God going to use me in this? I'm in this dry season, but if he can do it for Jesus, you know he can grow him out. That planting, when we plant ourself with Jesus, no matter those dry seasons, he's going to grow us out like out of that too those dry seasons. He's going to grow us out like out of that too. So I just there's just a lot of encouragement that I found in a lot of these verses and things that God said. I want you to know more about this Because the first couple of times I go through this, you can get through you know the simple message of it's a redemption story and having to remember sometimes that this was a prophetic word.
Charity Degonia:How much power is in this prophetic word, like long before it actually happened, and the details that he knew before it happened.
Charity Degonia:So the power in that and the visuals there's so many visuals in this that I keep looking at. Rejected, because we all rejected God in some way, in some part of our lives and I was like why did they reject him? Well, it's because they didn't want him. They wanted him to be a Messiah that had stature, that had a resume of I've killed all these people or had you know like been successful in all these ways that their kings did right? And so, in knowing these things that God's like revealing to me, they rejected him because it didn't look the way he wanted. God said how many times have things not looked the way we wanted them to look, you know, so there's so much hope in like. We can just settle in knowing things are not going to look the way they want to. You know, we want them to look or we think that they should look, but God's purpose and victory is going to come out of it.
Kim McIntire:Yeah, amen, that's good. Amen, that's a good word. What about obey? What are what calls to obedience were in this passage? Did anyone see? Did anyone feel just compelled in their spirit by that keyword?
Laurel Wike:Yeah, absolutely. There was always. You know, there's always something so applicable in our own, differently than we did. And the whole situation kind of turned into an unfortunate event and we were trying to understand what had happened and have communication and resolve if and where we needed to. And as this was happening, I'm reading this chapter and it talks about he was oppressed and treated harshly and yet he never said a word. And our natural tendency is so often as humans to we want to defend ourselves, right, like that is not how I saw the situation, you know, or if you're right, then let's make it right. And in this particular situation it felt like it was more like no, I just want to accuse you. Thanks, and you know, people like to get on Facebook and do their thing and that makes you all the more interested in defending yourself. But the Lord said no, and actually this was a confess as well for me, where he said you've already said too much.
Laurel Wike:It's time to be quiet, and without fuel, the fire goes out right. And that obedience, in that case, to follow in the example of Christ in this text, it changed the dynamic of what was happening and we were able to bring it to a resolution. And you know what? Do you know? His wisdom and His rhema word in that moment that came to us is what helped totally shift everything.
Charity Degonia:That's so good I did have a little bit on that too, Like that was one of my obeys that God said, hey, you don't need to defend yourself. And I thought it was interesting that of all of the details he went through in this chapter, he said that twice, Like he made a point to say he did not open His mouth, he didn't have to defend himself. And that was when God said being silent does not mean you're helpless. Sometimes that silence is humility and it's power. There's power in silence because we know that you know, are we doing the right thing? Are we in God's will? That's when you're silent and you go to him instead of you know. And that's so hard.
Charity Degonia:So that was one of my obey and confesses as well. But then in verse 12, it says he poured out His soul into death, that totality of Jesus' sacrifice, like he poured everything out. It was a conscious, like it was voluntary. It was not that God made Him do it, he did it himself. He poured it all out and there was nothing left. And that's where I want to be obedient. When Jesus says serve, when Jesus says sacrifice, when God asks me to do those things, it doesn't mean pour a little, just try sprinkle it. You know, here's a little obedience, here's a little humility. No, it's totality. And that was an obey and confess for me.
Kim McIntire:I just want to echo that, because what I see through this text is all of these examples of who Christ is and what he did, and I referenced those words at the beginning when I did the intro.
Kim McIntire:But you know, sacrifice like am I sacrificing, Lord, help me to obey in the sacrifice, Because the life of a believer, of a Jesus follower, there should be points of sacrifice and the submission to the Father. You know, this only happened because Jesus submitted to the Father, so this prophecy would have not been foretold if that hadn't already been in order, Because Jesus was already with God at this point, from the very beginning. And then just the surrender, the surrender of will, the selflessness I'm like. Those are points of obedience that this passage calls me to, because our lives should be a reflection of His, and we won't do it perfectly. Obviously, we aren't going to be perfected until we see Jesus Christ face to face. But to me, this had challenge written all over it, Because if we want to really be Jesus followers and that's what I want to be then this is calling us to a much higher standard of living than our culture does.
Kim McIntire:It's actually in opposition to the things that our culture would call us to. The culture isn't going to tell you to sacrifice or to surrender or to submit. You know these are all countercultures. So I'm just like Lord, help me to obey this example, because it is not the easy way, it is the hard way, it is the Jesus way.
JoBeth Ellis:Great song by Phil Williams.
Charity Degonia:Anyone else. I just want to piggyback on that, because you're saying that you know the things that we're called to is so opposite. But I think that this whole story shows that the way he was raised, the way he looked, the way you know everything that they thought he was. None of those things.
JoBeth Ellis:Yeah, it really goes back to what you said at the beginning Confession On this one. Mine was verse I think it was 7-2, on being silent. Am I right on that? That it was verse 7? Probably about three weeks ago I was in a situation where I believe I was right, but the situation did not go as I wanted it to and I ended up saying some things I regretted. And if I had just been quiet, if I'd been silent, because I think the silence would have went a lot farther. So this was one of my confessions Lord, help me control my tongue, Help me to be silent when I need to be silent, you know, and not always think I have to say something because I don't. What's empty? Words that mean nothing, you know. So that was one of mine words that mean nothing, you know. So that was one of mine. And another one that was really impactful for me on this.
JoBeth Ellis:I have read Isaiah many times but I can honestly say, until Abide, I didn't spend time in it, I didn't tear it apart and that was a confession for me that I went through it too fast. I didn't rest in it even if I didn't get past the first verse, so I didn't get past the second verse. This morning, when I was on my way to school, the Lord spoke something to me because I'd been praying God. I want to learn something more. Reveal something new to me, because I've read this so many times.
JoBeth Ellis:And he did. And what he spoke to my heart was Jesus was there with Him. When God was speaking all this to Isaiah, all of it, Jesus was right there with Him. He knew every detail, he knew all the pain, he knew all the suffering that he was going to endure, and yet he came. Yet he came for us and all I could say was what a love story. It's a love story and it's for you, it's for me, it's for our listeners. It is such a beautiful love story. Knowing what he was going to face, knowing how terrible he was treated, and yet he still came, because he loved us so much, he still came.
Kim McIntire:Thank you Jesus, so good, Thank you Jesus so good.
Charity Degonia:I read this somewhere in a devotional and I just had to grasp it. I write it everywhere just as a reminder. And it says he endured sickness for our healing. He endured loneliness for our redemption. He endured wounds of all sorts for our comfort. He braved pain for our peace. He experienced separation from God heaven, you know, so that we could be in his presence. Like there's so much power in knowing that. He experienced that.
Charity Degonia:So I went on to say thank you, jesus, for leaving everything, everything he gave up. So he gave up heaven for me so that I get to be with Him, you know, in heaven with Him, so that I can experience His presence in the mornings or when I choose to be. You know, with Him. And the Old Testament used to be so far off for me and hard for me to understand. But, man, the more I'm in it, the more I love it to know, like all the things that changed so that I can be in His presence, so I don't have to go to the temple, so I don't have to rely on a priest. You know all the things that they did in the Old Testament.
Charity Degonia:They don't have to carry it, I get to carry God's presence with me. It's so good.
JoBeth Ellis:So that's one of my thanksgiving for sure.
Kim McIntire:There's so much to praise and thank god for. Oh, so much. Through this chapter, others. I have a declare. So, um, if you guys, I'm just going to go back to the verse and I just want to read it out loud, and then I'm going to just speak a declaration, not just over us but over our listeners. Verse 5, he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities. Upon Him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and by His wounds we are healed so in that verse, my declaration is Jesus shed his blood for my salvation.
Kim McIntire:That is from that verse. Yeah, he also took wounds that I deserved and those wounds actually bring my healing. So I'm healed because of the wounds of Jesus, yes, and I have peace with God because I, of the punishment Jesus took, that was mine. So that is a body, mind and spirit atonement package. If you've never made that connection before, his blood bought your soul, right? If you're a believer. The punishment he took brought you peace with God, and that peace has to do with our mind.
JoBeth Ellis:Right.
Kim McIntire:And the wounds are our healing. So that's our body, so our soul, our mind, our body. Jesus paid a full atonement package, so his blood was shed for our salvation. Praise God, but don't stop there because there's more.
Kim McIntire:And so I just declare that that he died for me to not just be saved but to have peace and to be healed. And I claim it because he said it. I didn't say it, he said it. So I just declare that truth over my life, over you, ladies, and also over every listener, under the sound of my voice. That's what the blood of Jesus did, that's what the cross did for us, and the amazing thing is it's a free gift. Amen, it's a free gift. That's what the cross did for us, and the amazing thing is it's a free gift. Amen, it's a free gift. By grace, we are saved.
JoBeth Ellis:Yeah.
Kim McIntire:It's amazing that he did this for us. You know, we didn't deserve it, but he did it.
Laurel Wike:I think my praise really couples with that Awesome, Just thinking of the term wounded healer. You know, a lot of times I think for the majority of my life I've read this text and I've kind of relegated it to the cross Right, Because that's where we know. You know that he experienced these things.
Laurel Wike:But reading through like it doesn't say this is just at the cross, you know. And when you think about the fullness of his life I mean we know his siblings didn't believe in him for a long time what was his childhood like, being the perfect son of God, having siblings? There was probably some conflict and tension there and I just felt like the Lord spoke to my heart and said Jesus understands childhood trauma, he understands trauma period and you know, most of the time we've probably all heard the expression like wounded people, wound people, but healed people, healed people. And Jesus was that wounded healer. And so I just asked myself that question like how did you do that? You know, how did he do that? And you know, we see, in verse 4, towards the end, it says we thought his troubles were a punishment from God for his own sin. So often we think we know things and we decide this is how it is. But Jesus thought differently than everybody else did.
Laurel Wike:And he knew, as you go into verse 5, he was wounded and crushed for our sins and thinking differently from everybody else, you know, I mean not that thinking differently from everybody else is the standard. It's thinking on truth, right, and just so often the status quo is not truth, and that was what enabled him to. Even though he walked through the trauma, even though he experienced all these things, he was able to take that and use that for our healing and I will praise him all day long. Amen.
Kim McIntire:So will I, so will I so good.
Charity Degonia:There's so many actions in this. You know so many action words that he bore, he carried. You know it's so many like active things that he did.
Charity Degonia:And so, you know, we think about praise being His character and thanksgiving being like the things that he did, man, we could list them all day long, just in one chapter of the Bible, you know. So I always separate them out because I want to really point out God's character in my mind and in my heart. I'm like this is who he is all the time, this is what he did, you know here, or whatever, and so some of the things that I just jotted down, I was like thank you for being willing because of that action word.
Charity Degonia:You know he was willing to take all of my pain, my suffering, my diseases, my. You know the loneliness that I feel. You know, when we feel like we can't do it, we don't know who to talk to or whatever, we go to Him because he understands absolutely every emotion and sometimes it's hard to think that God's not a far off. God, you know, he whispers because he's close right. But in all of these action, words and all of the things that we talk about and think about, this is like he did all of this for us. But we have to accept it, that's right.
Charity Degonia:We have to take that. You know, if somebody gives us a gift, if we don't unwrap it, if we don't take it, if we don't use it, if we don't, you know, apply it, it's not a gift. And so I think that that's really important to point out here, too is like this prophecy is telling us everything that Jesus did, and we want this, we want all of this in our lives, but it's up to us to pray boldly for this. You know, I think about Kim. You've taught me so much about praying boldly and it's transformed my entire prayer life, about how, all the things that I can come to him about.
Charity Degonia:But this chapter was the one that was like all of the things God said. It's like you said, with all three things, everything I can come boldly to Him because he cares about my diseases, he cares about my loneliness, he cares about all of these things. But I have to come to Him, I have to be the action step that goes to him and accepts the gift of all the things he's ready to give to me. And then, after I come to him, then I have to trust his goodness and I have to trust his mercy to lead me to that next step.
Kim McIntire:That's right, that's very good, so rich. I'm going to just have everyone reference verse 12. The last part of that is just one of my favorite parts in the whole chapter. Yet he bore the sin of many and makes intercession for the transgressors. Jesus prayed. Jesus prayed on the cross. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. He prayed then, he's praying now.
Kim McIntire:And so just that beautiful gift that Jesus prays, not when I deserved it, not when I didn't even know him when he was praying for me. You may not know Jesus, but he's praying for you. I speak this over the listeners. You may not know Jesus, but he prays for you, and I think of all of the things I mean. There are so many things I thank God for, but I'm so thankful. Jesus prays for me, aren't you guys? He prays the best prayers. I know that, it's true, way better than anyone else can and knows exactly what we need, and so I thank God for that. That's one of my praises that he prays for us. You know. Any other thoughts before we close? Isaiah 53.
JoBeth Ellis:I would just tie in John 3, 16 with this. And that is for God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on Him will not perish but have everlasting life, amen. Yeah, and that's what 53 was about Him coming. Yeah, so true's what 53 was about Him coming.
Kim McIntire:Yeah, so true. So one of the questions that we ask and abide is God, what is on your heart as we read the Word? And I believe the answer to that question is we are on His heart we are People are on God's heart.
Kim McIntire:So do you know Jesus? Not just about Him. I knew about Jesus for many, many years, but do you know Jesus? Do you know how much he loves you? Do you know how much he prays for you? Do you know how much he longs to be in relationship with you? Have you ever said yes, because we four ladies are praying that today or tonight, is your yes to Jesus?
JoBeth Ellis:Amen.
Kim McIntire:The Bible says if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1, 9. And so we want to encourage you to give your life to Jesus Christ, if you don't already know Him as your Savior. But we also want to ask make Him your Lord. He didn't just die to save your soul. He wants to be the Lord of your life. And when he becomes the Lord of your life, everything will change, because he will be an umbrella over you, a protection over you over you, a covering, and it's one like no person on earth can give you.
Kim McIntire:So we are going to pray and we're going to believe that someone is making that decision from this episode today. Anyone who would like to pray along with me, please pray along with me, and then I will close. Father, god, thank you for the power of your word, the power of the blood of Jesus Christ, the power of the name of Jesus, and we speak, jesus, through these airwaves right now. Jesus, over every listener. Thank you that you are speaking through the power of your Holy Spirit. God, we believe that and we trust you to speak into hearts.
Laurel Wike:God, I thank you that we were the joy that was set before you, that caused you to endure the cross, and, father, I pray for every person listening that you would give them a fresh, maybe a first-time revelation of your love for them.
Laurel Wike:Father, I pray that you would help each one of us and each listener to have tangible experiences that allow us to feel your love for us. God, yes, lord, because your word says that when we understand and experience your love for us, we'll be filled with the fullness of life and power that comes from God, and I pray that blessing and I ask for that reality in the life of every listener.
Kim McIntire:Yes, lord. Thank you, Jesus. So, father God, thank you for meeting with us. Thank you for opening our hearts and minds to your word. Thank you, god, that your word does not return void, but it achieves the purpose for which you send, and it accomplishes the purpose for which you send it. So, thank you, lord. We believe that every word you have spoken is true. We stand on your word. Thank you for your love and thank you for this love letter that you've written to us. We give you all praise in Jesus' holy name, amen. Thank you all for listening. If you were encouraged, strengthened or blessed by this conversation, would you please share it with someone? The purpose of this podcast is to glorify God and encourage all believers in their walk with the Lord. Once again, our website is itstimetoriseuporg and you'll find our social media platforms there. May God's grace and peace be with you all, through Jesus Christ, our Lord.