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The Struggles and Joys of Marriage with Jeremiah and Cassie Skiles - 17
Twenty years of marriage has taught Cassie and Jeremiah Skiles one crucial lesson: when life's battles come, stand back-to-back rather than face-to-face. This powerful image—inspired by Ecclesiastes 4:12—has become the cornerstone of their relationship philosophy.
From their unexpected beginning (she arrived with homemade pie, driving a red Firebird with T-tops!), through blending families, health crises, and spiritual warfare, the Skiles share with remarkable transparency how open communication has sustained them through even the darkest valleys. "Communication is the key to marriage," Jeremiah emphasizes, "but communication is not always easy." Their willingness to have difficult conversations—about everything from financial decisions to intimate struggles—has prevented small issues from festering into marriage-threatening problems.
When Cassie faced severe health challenges including endometriosis and eventually a hysterectomy, Jeremiah learned to ask God a simple but profound question: "Is this a time where I need to encourage her, or is this a time when I need to pray for her?" This spiritual discernment has allowed them to navigate chronic illness with grace and understanding.
Perhaps most striking is their approach to spiritual warfare. Recognizing when attacks come—often before major breakthroughs—they anoint their home with oil, stand on scriptural promises, and remain vigilant against the enemy's familiar patterns. "The enemy doesn't have new tricks," Cassie observes. "He has smoke screens and mirrors and that's all he has."
For listeners navigating marriage's complexities, this episode offers hope, practical wisdom, and a beautiful reminder that with Christ as the third strand in marriage's "triple-braided cord," relationships can not only survive but thrive through life's greatest challenges.
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Kim McIntire:Cassie and Jeremiah Skiles, I welcome you guys into the studio. It's an honor to have you here. The first time I met Cassie and Jeremiah it was at a local church where we attend and they, within a year I think, became our life group leaders. And what I learned about you guys is the two of you can enter into a room and shift the atmosphere in just like a split second. You bring joy into the room. You guys have the presence of God on your lives. It's so strong. It's been such a blessing to me and I'm excited for you guys to share your marriage testimony today. But before we jump into that, jeremiah, why don't you just tell us a little bit about yourself?
Jeremiah Skiles:Well, my name is Jeremiah. I was born in 1973 in Dallas, Texas. All right, I am a pastor's kid. I was a pastor's kid my whole life and went to Bible college and had some struggles early on.
Kim McIntire:Yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:And, you know, got into some situations and some things. First of all, I got married when I was way too young way too immature.
Kim McIntire:I hear that.
Jeremiah Skiles:I was an immature, selfish person, and so I got rolling and thought I knew who I was and what I wanted to do, and I really didn't. And so God had to take me, you know, down a peg and just really really I had to. I had to go through some process to really to really figure out who I am, who the person is right now, and so that took a little bit.
Kim McIntire:Yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:And it was hard at times, sure, but we've been married for 20 years.
Kim McIntire:Congratulations, that's a milestone, it was. It was 20 years. Congratulations, that's a milestone.
Jeremiah Skiles:It was 20 years in September, and when I first asked Cassie to marry me, I called her and she said yes, I'll marry you. Who is this?
Cassie Skiles:No, I didn't.
Kim McIntire:Oh, my word, that was a bad joke, I'm just kidding, I love it.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yeah, so we have. You know we've had some ups and downs in our marriage, but I'll let Cassie tell you a little bit about herself as well.
Cassie Skiles:Yes, that's why I'm Cassie. Welcome, cassie, hi. So yeah, I was a naive young lady whenever I met Jeremiah. No, I just I hadn't had very much experience in relationships and you know, I was actually only 21 when we got married. Jeremiah was 31. So there's 10 years between us.
Cassie Skiles:He robbed the cradle, Come on, what I had prayed for, and I'd been in a few relationships that weren't that, and I'd kind of come to a place where I thought that wasn't even possible, what I was praying for wasn't possible. So I'd kind of given up hope and I was like you know what you know, I'm going to just turn my life over to God completely, and that's what I'm going to focus on right now is just, you know, completely being surrendered to Him. And it was during that season of my life that I met Jeremiah and it was a mutual friendship that my sister was engaged to, her now husband and their family. Her husband's family is a large family and Jeremiah was actually kind of grafted into their family and he would be there a lot whenever we'd you know, and I would go with my sister over there and we'd, you know, hang out and play cards and do different things, and so he was at these things a lot and that's kind of where we sort of got to know each other.
Jeremiah Skiles:It was after I was. I was married and divorced all in a six year span and I was still in my twenties, and so this family has a bunch of bunch of boys about my age and I just started showing up at their house on Sunday afternoon for dinner and I just kind of got my plate and went right up there. So I was just kind of like part of the family. And that's when she started coming over. Yes, I love that.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah, I was just kind of like part of the family, and that's when she started coming over. Yes, I love that.
Kim McIntire:That's so good.
Cassie Skiles:I remember one of the first times that I came over there. I had a pie with me and I was driving at the time a Firebird.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yes, red Firebird with T-tops.
Cassie Skiles:Come on, he was definitely, you know, turned his attention in my direction when I came in the door carrying a pie and driving a Firebird.
Jeremiah Skiles:It was the pie.
Kim McIntire:Blonde hair, red Firebird homemade pie.
Jeremiah Skiles:Come on yeah.
Kim McIntire:Most guys dream right there.
Jeremiah Skiles:I was like I'm ready, lord, right now.
Kim McIntire:That's so sweet, I love it. And do you guys have kids?
Jeremiah Skiles:We do we do Isaac Wayne yes.
Cassie Skiles:We have Isaac Wayne, we also have Kaya, which it's Jeremiah Hezekiah II. Yes, he is he's? Married with two little girls I had him when we got married.
Jeremiah Skiles:He was eight years old when we got married, yes, and so I had him by myself for about four years in that span, and so we were batching it, him and I together. And so, yeah, he was eight years old when we got married and I learned through my first marriage you don't have a child right off. He's a great kid, he's a great dad. But we took some time, we did, and had, you know, our three or four years Was it three years or four years? Before Isaac came along, it was three, three years out, yeah, three years. And then we had a multiple family. What do you call that? A blended family, a blended family? Then we had a blended family.
Kim McIntire:That's awesome. So we've actually and two grandbabies, right.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yep, we have two grandbabies, two girls, and they're messes. They're a mess.
Kim McIntire:They're adorable. I've seen them. Oh yeah, they're adorable.
Cassie Skiles:We love them Super cute. Isaac Wayne will be 18 in April so we're going to be. I'm thinking we're going to be empty nesters before too long too.
Kim McIntire:What a fun season.
Cassie Skiles:Yes, absolutely.
Kim McIntire:That's so good. You guys have a lot going on in your life right now.
Jeremiah Skiles:We had. It was just different seasons in our lives, because we were a blended family and then we were single. I was a single dad by myself, and then we were a blended family and then we were a nuclear family because Kaya moved on and he moved out, and then it's just us three now. So then we're a nuclear family, so we can speak to all different kinds of situations and things. It's things God has really blessed us in that area.
Kim McIntire:It's so exciting to get to hear your journey, because I just know pieces of your journey. I haven't known you for very long, just a few years, but why don't we start with what life was really like before you even met? Maybe just take a few minutes to talk about that, you know, before you ever met at the family's house.
Cassie Skiles:Okay, well, I know for me I kind of touched on a little bit that I had a few relationships that really were. You know, some of them were just kind of I was young, I'm like my first relationship when I was 16. And it's anything, anybody. When you have your first relationship it's not really real. For some people it might be, but for me it really wasn't you know, Right, right, and you know that didn't really last.
Cassie Skiles:But then I did, you know, date another person that really wasn't a match for me and he really wasn't the person that I had prayed for. And you know it wasn't really. You know it didn't gel, but I was trying to force it anyway, right, just because I was in a place where I was like you know what, that person doesn't exist. So I guess I'm going to just, you know, date this person instead and it just it wasn't good, but God delivered me from that relationship. I guess you could say, yeah, but God delivered me from that relationship. I guess you could say, and you know, really brought me to the place of, you know, having my heart open to Him. And to say that in my prayers I had prayed for a man who'd been divorced and had a child really wasn't in my prayers and really in the scope of you know, when we would talk and flirt and, you know, have fun, and there was a connection there for sure.
Cassie Skiles:I remember having a conversation with my mom and it was kind of in that again in this season, where I was like this guy doesn't exist and I don't, nobody is ever going to, you know, see me in a different way and I'm just, I'm always going to be alone. And my mom was actually the one that said I don't know if you've paid attention or not, but Jeremiah Skiles, he looks at you in a different way and I was like he wouldn't even give me the time of day, you know, and I kind of thought he was in a different level of you know. That's not really. He's not somebody that would consider me. She said no, I've seen the way he looks at you. He's taken with you.
Jeremiah Skiles:Moms know, yeah, they do Shout out to Mama Joyce I love Mama Joyce, I love her.
Cassie Skiles:I opened my heart up to that and look what happened. Yeah, now here we are, how about you, Jeremiah?
Kim McIntire:What was life? I mean, you were a single dad, bachelor with a son.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yep, I was a single dad. He was almost in kindergarten. He was four or five, he was five.
Kim McIntire:So he was eight when you got married. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:So we, him and I, we just had a little rent house and we would just hang out. Because I was like, whenever life kind of fell apart, I was like, okay, what do what do I need to do? And I was just kind of I just sought counseling from different people Some people that had, you know, had been through similar situations and the advice that I got was you need to focus on your son. Um, they don't need to worry about anything else, but focus on, I mean, obviously, my relationship with God is, is has to be, number one. But he was like your son is your, your next, your next priority right now. Cause that that should take top priority over everything except for your relationship with God.
Jeremiah Skiles:So that's what I did and I wasn't really looking for anyone in particular. I mean, I kind of knew what if I told God, if I do get married again, this is kind of what I want, but if, if I need to stay single for the rest of my life, I'm okay with that. And so you know, and I just focused on him and we had, you know, we had a blast, we would go travel and we would do different things, and Pizza Inn and Joplin was kids eat free on Tuesday night Perfect On the buffet, I love it. And then the movies were 50 cents. So it was like, dude, we had a Tuesday night date on schedule every time. So sweet. But yeah, it was lonely sometimes but I learned how to cook a few more things than what I knew before. So, and you know, just in that search, trying to find, you know, telling God, those things about this is what I kind of want. But if not, then I'm good.
Kim McIntire:Yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yeah.
Kim McIntire:So you guys met, you start hanging out. When did it become an official dating relationship? Like who wants to tell that story.
Cassie Skiles:I feel like it was pretty early on. We, you know, again, there was just a spark there, for sure, and I can't remember if you officially, like, actually asked me out, or I'm trying to remember because there was a couple of different things that I know were yeah there's a couple of different situations.
Jeremiah Skiles:when I was, we were, I was leaving the mall back when the mall was cool, and so a long time ago I was leaving the mall and I think you called me or I called you, I can't remember.
Jeremiah Skiles:Anyway, she was like yeah, I'm just at the mall. And I was like, well, I'm at the mall too, and I had already left and I was down the road. So I turned around and I was like you want to get some Orange Julius? And she was like yeah, sure, and so we sat down and just had a little chat there. It wasn't really like a first date, but it was like just kind of feeling things out. And Cassie doesn't even like Orange Julius. I don't.
Cassie Skiles:So we came over there and kind of sipped around on it. I got one and I drank it anyway. I was like, yeah, this is great. I miss Orange Julius at the mall. I miss it.
Jeremiah Skiles:It was amazing.
Cassie Skiles:We were dating and I know that one of the things we did when we were dating again, this is kind of another example of that he said, hey, I'm going to go, I lead this life group and we're going to go paintballing. And I was like, oh yeah that would be great, so I'd never been. Oh my, and I was like, yeah, I'll go paintballing. Worst decision of my life.
Kim McIntire:That was terrible, oh my decision of my life, oh my girl.
Cassie Skiles:So there's a picture of me and I just look like I'm.
Jeremiah Skiles:It is so funny. I wish we could get it up for the podcast. It is so funny.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah, she looks like this. I've got my helmet on and I'm just like defeated yeah.
Kim McIntire:I would strongly recommend to anyone that I'm friends with Don't go paintball.
Jeremiah Skiles:Don't go paintball. Don't go paint up, it'll be okay.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah, we were dating and I was like, yeah, that sounds like fun, that's great, let's do it.
Kim McIntire:Oh, I love it. Yeah, so sounds like it was a fun time from the very beginning. Yeah, that's exciting and you guys both, I know are like you have such strong faith. Was faith a big part of your relationship from the beginning, or did you grow into that?
Cassie Skiles:No, absolutely. Faith was really the hallmark of how we started our relationship. I think both of us were in that season of, you know, completely surrendering our life to God and saying, okay, if that involves somebody coming into my life, that's awesome, but if it doesn't this is where my focus is right now. It's on God, and I knew from a young age that the Lord had drawn me close to Him and there was an intimacy with Him that I don't think a lot of people get to experience, especially at such a young age, and I knew whoever I was going to spend my life with had to understand that and had to really come alongside me with that, and that was something that I know that we both openly talked about while we were dating, and he was on the same page with me in that it changes everything.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah, it does, doesn't it.
Kim McIntire:That's not how we started. We were Everett and I. We were churchgoers, so we were faithful to church, but not so much faithful to the Lord. There's a difference, right? So you can go to church three times a week and that doesn't mean you have a personal relationship or a deep faith in the Lord, so I just think that's a beautiful story. I mean, start to your story is that Christ was there at the beginning, in the center of your relationship.
Kim McIntire:So I love that. So share with us just some of the ups and downs of your marriage journey. Whoever wants to start.
Cassie Skiles:I've talked a lot lately, so you just take this one, go ahead.
Kim McIntire:Yeah, like what stands out to you is just some of the mountaintop moments, or valley moments.
Jeremiah Skiles:Right, and a lot of it has to do with our differences. When Cassie and I got married she was two weeks ahead and I was two weeks behind, and so we kind of met right there in the middle. And so that will cause ups and downs, because I have a kind of a carefree, not a lot of things bother me attitude about a lot of stuff, and so I had to, I had to kind of rein some of that back in, because there's there's things that you have to take serious and there's things that you have to understand. And then Cassie was a little on the uptide side.
Kim McIntire:Very serious, very yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:Sexless, and there's this and we got to do this. And then you know, and I'm, and here I am wild and crazy over here. So we, we kind of those those things will cause ups and downs, sure In finances, in decision making about in-laws and families and things, and so that's we had.
Jeremiah Skiles:We had our struggles, ups and downs, but we were already at that place to where we knew that this was, this was, this was real. I mean, we were engaged for four months and we were, we dated for four months and we're engaged for four months, so eight months we were, we were married.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:And so, yeah, the, the high, high, highs are. You know, whenever I first heard Cassie sing, we were, we were kind of dating and somebody was like, oh, people would tell me, oh, she sings wonderful and I have a whole, I have a family that is full of wonderful singers and musicians. And I was like, okay, calm down, I've heard people sing before. And so we went to something and she was doing the altar call. She wasn't doing the altar call, she was singing at the altar call.
Kim McIntire:Right.
Jeremiah Skiles:And she sang Mercy Seed oh my. And it was I mean.
Kim McIntire:Yeah, she sang Mercy.
Jeremiah Skiles:Seat. Oh my, and it was. I mean, the presence of God was so strong in there. I think I got saved again. Wow, that was so awesome. That was a joke, I really didn't get saved, but I just felt it was so strong and so powerful when she sang that and I was just like she doesn't just sing, she has the anointing she does and it all works together when she sings. And so I was just like, wow, I know that that's something that would really I can. What am I trying to say here, cassie?
Kim McIntire:Well, I remember the first time I heard a Cassie sing and I was thinking this is the closest thing that I could imagine would be the voice of an angel. Oh yeah, I'm not saying that because she's my friend, so I get what I mean. I'm not a male who is interested in.
Cassie Skiles:You know being like her life partner.
Kim McIntire:So you know what I mean. I can imagine that was a moment right, especially the spiritual element too, yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:Because it was more than just, it was a definite connection.
Kim McIntire:Her. It was like the spiritual connection with the Lord too.
Jeremiah Skiles:Definitely that's so good, definitely a spiritual connection, yeah. And so with all those you know ups and downs, we just we've always communicated is the most important thing and that's one thing I learned from already you know, coming through one marriage I knew I actually sat her down and was like, look, sometimes I'm going to say things and it's going to sound harsh, but I just have to get them out. I have to communicate those to you and wherever it goes from that we can work on. But there's some things that we just have to communicate. Communication is the key to marriage. But communication is not always easy, it's hard.
Kim McIntire:It is hard.
Jeremiah Skiles:Especially when there's things that you have to say that are embarrassing you know, if you're embarrassed about it, or if there's something stupid that you did and you have to. You know, or a certain way that you thought and you're like well, I thought this way, sure, and you just have to get it out, though, that communication at least gets the ball rolling where you can kind of deal with it, and that's what we've always done right, yeah, and that's honestly one of the things that I really appreciate about Jeremiah and we're both birth order, we're both middle kids.
Cassie Skiles:Oh wow, that's a very challenging dynamic.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yes.
Cassie Skiles:So when you're talking about communication with two middles, it's almost non-existent unless you really work to do it. Yeah, and we both—we're different dynamics in our families but both kind of have that middle kid syndrome of you know, we just don't want to—we don't want to rock the boat, we just want to. You know, go to our room and, you know, do our own thing. Want to rock the boat? We just want to. You know, go to our room and you know, do our own thing. So you know we had to.
Cassie Skiles:Really, that was one of the things that I appreciate about Jeremiah, having been through what he had been through, that is that he didn't go through what he went through and not learn from it. The Lord really brought him through that in a way that spoke to him and was like, okay, in your next relationship, this is how it needs to be done, and you can't let things go. You can't just not communicate, you can't just, you know, bury it and think that it's going to be okay. So we have had, early on, had to have, you know, those hard conversations but, it's really not something that we've had to like.
Cassie Skiles:Have a break, breaking point in our marriage and come to the place of you know we now we communicate. No, we've always communicated and I appreciate that he's led our home in that way. Right, that you know we're going to talk about this, even though it's difficult. Neither of us really want to talk about this. Right, we need to get this on the table. We can't go to bed with this still being, you know, out there. So we've now learned that about each other, and I know when he's not right. He knows when I'm not right.
Cassie Skiles:And you know, we, you know, talk to each other and we're like hey, you know, something's going on, let's talk.
Jeremiah Skiles:And actually the Holy Spirit kind of gave me a vision when I was, when we were, you know, when we were first married and I kind of knew that there would be. I didn't think it would all be. It's the second one, so it's all going to be rainbows and roses. I knew there would be some struggles and stuff, not that I was, you know, saying this is going to be bad, but you know, I just knew, with communication and everything, it was going to be some situations. And so at one point I was in the garage or I was in the front room in our first little house and she was back in the back room and we were mad at each other. We were like we didn't argue or anything, but we had said some things and we were mad and the Holy Spirit was like hey, you guys are fighting the same thing. If you would get back to back and fight together, you're gonna do a lot better.
Jeremiah Skiles:And I think you have a scripture for that, don't you? That goes along with it and that's not something that I was reading the scripture and it popped up to me, that's something that the Holy Spirit dropped in my heart, like you need to fight with her, not against her, because you're fighting the same enemy, it's not two different enemies, it's the same thing.
Cassie Skiles:It's the same. Yeah, it's the same thing. So wise, it's the enemy. So the verse that accompanies that, and it's so awesome how beautiful the way that the Lord, his word, is living and he speaks it to us even in moments when we don't know that it's actually his word he's given us. Yeah, so it's Ecclesiastes 4.12. And it says a person standing alone can be attacked and defeated, but two can stand back to back and conquer. Three are even better, for a triple-braided cord is not easily broken, right, praise God.
Jeremiah Skiles:So and the third party is the Holy Spirit. Yes, right, the third person, yes.
Kim McIntire:That's right. It's why you've celebrated 20 years, yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yes, you know, we will just always communicate through all the hard times, and we just understand that that's what we're going to do. There's no other option. I mean we may take a minute.
Kim McIntire:Sure Like.
Jeremiah Skiles:I have to go, I need to go for a walk because I'm going to say some things that I don't want to say but that are, you know, kind of pinging around in my head Absolutely, and I need to get my thoughts together before I just open up my mouth and all these crazy things come out Because I know they're not right. I need to kind of get myself together so Cassie's calm and cool and she can just zip, zip, zip.
Kim McIntire:I think pressing pause is really a good thing for most people, yeah, rather than to speak in a moment of emotion or being upset. I wish I had known that way earlier in our marriage you know it was the first 15 years I was very quick. Let's talk about it, let's work it out now. Very bad idea when emotions are high, nothing gets better. Things only get worse. Everett finally convinced me let's wait till we're not both mad. It took a while but I finally figured that out. But that's so wise it is.
Cassie Skiles:And so wise. And again, I appreciate that he's come from that and you know he knows his tendencies to be that way and I can be emotional as well, but I know for him he can really cut you down if he's really.
Kim McIntire:I can't imagine. That.
Jeremiah Skiles:Well, we had all boys cousins, mostly all-boy cousins, growing up and I was around all of them and it was like kill or be killed Every man for himself. You just rip into somebody, and if you get the best of them, then that's the way it is.
Cassie Skiles:Survival.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yeah, survival and so I had to kind of like, okay, this is not the way I'm supposed to be.
Kim McIntire:I have a question for you, cassie. Okay, and you know, I know that just in our culture, many, many families are blended. You know, many women become Insta moms, many men become Insta dads. What was that experience like, you know, having a little boy in your home who's eight years old and you're a newlywed Like? Talk about that a little bit.
Cassie Skiles:Honestly, I again, prior to meeting Jeremiah I never would have imagined myself in that situation. But when he came along, everything just felt right about all of it, and Kaya included, and I never thought a second thought about you know oh well, he's got a kid. But you know, whatever it was, he was a part of it, he was a part of the whole thing and God brought all of that along and I know that I was a part of being brought to the picture for Kaya just as much as for Jeremiah as well. And you know me coming along kind of helped to establish some stability there and I don't think we touched on this. But Kaya's mother has passed his birth mother and she was ill in the time that we had started dating and she fell ill after they had divorced and so. But it was a bad situation and she went from being vibrant and living life and that was taken away from her. So when I came onto the scene, that's you know, kaya was three years into that situation of you know, seeing his mom every other weekend and she was not the same person that she was before, could barely communicate, and so to come along and be that mother figure for him I think was important and I understood that that was something that he needed.
Cassie Skiles:I was very respectful and, you know, never assumed that he was going to call me mom, you know, and I was fine with him calling me Cassie, but I was so happy to come along and you know, I've always, and something else that the Lord really ingrained in me before we even got married, was that I enjoy keeping a home. I enjoy even when I lived at home with my parents. I would do the grocery shopping and I would, you know, cook meals for my family. My parents are entrepreneurs and they would sometimes get home at, you know, seven or eight in the evening. So I was like, you know, I'm going to learn how to cook and you know, I can cook for my family. And so, at a young age I took on homemaking and I just really enjoyed it.
Cassie Skiles:And you know, when I look back, I'm like God you were, you knew exactly what you were doing. You know, even in those years of formative years of my life, whenever I was, like you know, just thinking I'm, you know, spending Friday nights at home making a batch of cookies because that's what I wanted to do at that moment it was. You know, the Lord was preparing me for what I was getting ready to step into. And you know Kaya jokes that when Jeremiah cooked, it was crooked grilled cheeses and frozen burritos.
Cassie Skiles:Those were the things that he remembers.
Kim McIntire:He got an upgrade, kathy, yeah, yeah.
Cassie Skiles:Apparently, the grilled cheeses were always crooked. That was what he remembered. But yeah, when I came into the picture he was definitely happy about the meals and you know those things that come along with it the Lord's sandwich just all over it oh man the meals.
Jeremiah Skiles:When we first got married, there would be a four-course meal every night. I'm like we're not used to this.
Cassie Skiles:It wasn't a four-course meal. That's a little dramatic, well, I've had Cassie's cooking.
Kim McIntire:It's quite good.
Jeremiah Skiles:There's lots of bread.
Kim McIntire:There was lots of bread Cassie's cooking.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah, I came. My dad likes meat and potatoes and we liked, you know, biscuits with evermeal kind of a deal.
Kim McIntire:So that's the way I cooked, that's the way I was raised and I love it Cookies and pie.
Jeremiah Skiles:Come on, you're speaking my language.
Kim McIntire:I love that kind of cooking and I enjoy eating it.
Jeremiah Skiles:Kaya had to start wearing husky pants after that first shoot he did.
Kim McIntire:That's funny. Hey, that way, when winter comes on, you're packed in good.
Cassie Skiles:There we go. That's right, he was ready. He was ready for the winter.
Kim McIntire:Oh, my goodness. Well, everett and I have a memorial stone in our marriage that impacted us greatly. He attended a Promise Keepers in 1996. And other than when he was saved as a child, it was the most powerful encounter that he had with the Lord. And we had only been married a few years and when he came home I instantly knew like things are different. It was the first time he prayed with me other than a meal. You know what I mean. Like we were kind of trained up to give thanks for your meal before you eat. So that's something we still do. I mean, we both were raised that way and it's I hate to say it's a ritual, but it's kind of weird not to, because that's just how we were raised and so I'm thankful for that.
Kim McIntire:But other than that time, like we weren't really praying together at all and he, from that moment on, was like God has to be the center of our marriage. I'm supposed to be the spiritual leader. I'm sorry I haven't been, but I'm praying for you. Every day I'm praying for you, and things just shifted so much and at that point I was actually in the process of considering going back to school because I didn't have job skills and the marriage was in a state that I didn't feel like it would. It was going to work, it was going to last.
Kim McIntire:So divorce was on my mind. Just to be honest, he knows this. I'm not saying anything, he doesn't know. And the Lord knew. The Lord knew what it would take to keep us together and he did it. So I don't know if you guys have a spiritual memorial stone that you look back on. That was just. I mean, you said the Lord was at the center from the very beginning. But has there been a place you look back and you just feel like there was a shifting spiritually for you guys? Because I know you've done ministry, I know you have both have a calling on your life, so do you want to speak into that? I mean, does the Holy Spirit bring anything to mind with that thought?
Jeremiah Skiles:Well, we've been at different places where God shifted us, and there was a time to where we were really frustrated with a lot of things that were going on in our lives. Everything was like—everything was frustrating us, and so Cassie just kept getting this word from the Lord all things new. And we didn't know what that meant. We didn't know where we were going to move to Hawaii and start a church, or what we were going to do Go ahead.
Cassie Skiles:Well it was. We were doing a reading through the Bible at the time, and it was the end of a year, and so I'm in Revelation, and I couldn't tell you the exact verse that it was, but it was where it says behold, I make all things new. And so when I read that, I was like, oh, that's great, it's a great new word for the new year. And so I wrote it down in my journal and the Lord brought me back to it, kept bringing me back to it, and the way that he brought me back to it it was like I couldn't put it exactly into words, but I knew in my spirit that there was something more to that, and what I sensed was that it was going to be an all things new, as, like what we knew in that moment was getting ready to shift and completely change, and at the time I believe you were working for it was a marketing company.
Cassie Skiles:I think, and he was unhappy with that. You know situation and I can't remember exactly what else was going on at that moment in our life.
Jeremiah Skiles:Well, it was a job where I would just go into Walmart stores all over the place, and so I was doing a lot of traveling. I was kind of tired of doing that and there was some things going on. So it was our church, I think. Our time we were kids, pastors, and Cassie led worship as well, and I think that God was just bringing us to a change.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yeah, and we didn't know what this change was all going to involve, and so we just felt like you know, like whenever you feel change coming, you just feel like uncomfortable. It's not like anything was bad all the way around, but it's just like we felt uncomfortable. And we knew Cassie kept getting that word and we're like, okay, it is all things new, everything. God is going to change everything around. And he did that, yeah. And so, yeah, it was from that moment we've been and I'm not saying we're happy every day, sure, we've had, it's just like, shifted our perspective to where we know that God can change your situation, our perspective to where we know that God can change your situation. And whatever you're dealing with, you know, whether it be job or your ministry, or your church or your family, god can change it all and make it the right thing.
Cassie Skiles:Amen, yeah, and I feel like, really at that point in our life was when the Lord really spoke to us and we'd kind of been doing this already.
Cassie Skiles:But to make it a matter of every time, we pray over any part of our life, whatever it might be, whether we're praying for each other, you know, because we, you know, need something, whether it's a financial need or, you know, a health need or job change need or something of that nature, or even praying for other people.
Cassie Skiles:But the one thing that we always follow up every prayer is, lord, not our will, but your will be done. And that's a hard prayer to pray sometimes, because it leaves it in the way of saying, well, if this means that what I want and what I'm praying for doesn't happen, then, lord, I'm still going to be content because you're going to carry the weight of the burden for me and you're going to help me through this. But it was, I think, in that season really, that that kind of really got imprinted into us and since then, you know, we've tried our best to hear His voice and to follow what he's telling us. And we've had job changes since then and church changes since then and, you know, I think we both kind of have. From that season of our life, you know, came this ability to be flexible, ability to be pliable.
Cassie Skiles:That was actually a word that was spoken over us, that word pliable.
Jeremiah Skiles:Very early on we were down praying at an altar in a church service and a guy came up to us and was just like pliable? And we just looked at each other like what, what do you mean? Pliable? Right, and that's he said. God just told me to tell you pliable, and that's. You know. We didn't really think about it at the time, but once we got into some situations we were like, oh, especially through this last, you know, through the last little bit, we were like, yeah, we have to be very pliable to what God wants. Yeah, as opposed to what we want. Yeah, and what you know. We have good intentions, but God knows better than we do. It's true, he does, he always does.
Kim McIntire:It's true.
Jeremiah Skiles:And so you know, I've wanted to leave Joplin for a long time now. Yeah, and God reminded me because I was getting a little frustrated, I don't know a couple weeks ago, and God reminded me. He was like Jeremiah you prayed a long time ago that you would like to have your two boys, your kids, in the same school from start to beginning. Because my journey was, I went to 20 different schools, from kindergarten to high school, right, and I don't dislike my parents for that. I love the way I grew up, I absolutely love it. But I wanted stability in that way for my kids and so I told God I wanted to do that. And I was getting a little frustrated, talking to God about it. And God was like Jeremiah, do you realize that Isaac's just now going to graduate? He's going to graduate in May, he's already done, but he's going to graduate in May. So those two things, what you asked for, I've done it. So I'm like, oh, okay, god, sorry, I didn't mean to complain for my prayers that I prayed a long time ago.
Kim McIntire:He has to remind us sometimes. Yes, he does.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yeah, and so yeah, I love that.
Cassie Skiles:That was kind of a roundabout way of answering. We've had several, I guess you could say things that have been memorials for us in our marriage. But really I would say from the very beginning we've both been on the same page spiritually. But he's grown us together. I love it yeah.
Kim McIntire:And it shows.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah.
Kim McIntire:It's so obvious. It's so obvious, Cassie, you've been very open about your health struggles and I just wonder if you would like to just talk about what that journey is like when you're, you know, walking it with a husband. You know walking through it with a husband, yeah, and even Jeremiah's perspective on that. Like how has that been challenging in your relationship?
Cassie Skiles:Well, if I could give a little bit of detail to kind of give some reference to that.
Cassie Skiles:Please do, yes, little bit of detail to kind of give some reference to that. The health struggles that I have gone through have been mainly connected to has been female issues, gynecological issues. So from a young age I had symptoms of it was digestive, but I would also have, you know, painful monthly periods and things of that nature. So it was I never. I just thought this is normal. And then, you know, after we were married for a few years, I decided I probably ought to, you know, get this checked out. And so I mentioned it to my gynecologist and she said, well, let's do an ultrasound and see, you know, if there's anything that comes back. And they did an ultrasound and discovered what looked like a mass on my left ovary and they sent me immediately to an oncologist to see, you know, what would need to be done. And you know, he said really, the only option we have is surgery, because we can't really tell exactly what it is until we get in there. So I went in for surgery and they removed my left ovary and discovered that I had endometriosis. So that was in 2018. And since then I've been kind of on this journey of figuring out you know how. You know how to manage that and I had a few years after that where I got, you know, a little bit of relief after that, but things got a little worse with the symptoms and the things that were happening with all of that and ended up in 2020 having a full hysterectomy. So with that came a lot of the challenge that would come with marriage, came a lot of the challenge that would come with marriage.
Cassie Skiles:And I think from the beginning he had before I knew that. You know, this was the diagnosis that I had. I was open to talk to him about you know, the things that I struggled with, the digestive issues that were accompanying that, because it was definitely abnormal. It wasn't something that, you know, just a person walking down the street has this problem. It's definitely the pain and the discomfort and the things that come with it. You know, and I was nervous about that before I met Jeremiah because I was like this is going to be something that whoever I end up with is going to have to really understand that my digestive system is not normal, so you know. So I'm so glad that I married the right guy who understands that and didn't judge me for it and didn't think I was, you know, some weirdo because I had problems in that department.
Cassie Skiles:So, but yeah, after discovering, this is what it is obviously now that impacts. You know our sexual relationship and you know all of those things relationship and you know all of those things. So it has been a journey of us really learning together how to come back from that, and you know a lot of women I think could probably go well. I had hysterectomy. Now I'm technically in menopause, so that part of my life is over, but I don't believe that, and so I pray about it and I'm like Lord, give us wisdom, give me wisdom, give me resources, help me to be able to discover what it is that you know I need to discover, to help you know my body be the best that it can and help us to. You know, work together with that. And you know it's taken some journeys of really having patience Him having patience, for sure, and even me having patience with my own body, because I've definitely been mad at my own body before, sure, but yeah, I know that the Lord is definitely in that and helping us in that respect.
Kim McIntire:Well, it was God's design for us to enjoy intimacy as couples. Yeah, and it shouldn't be gone one day sooner than it needs to. Be right, absolutely.
Cassie Skiles:So that's a gift, absolutely.
Cassie Skiles:It's a gift, yeah, and the most, I guess, recent health struggle I had last year was, I believe it's connected to the endometriosis still being active even after hysterectomy.
Cassie Skiles:So again, I've prayed about that and the Lord has given me some resources that have, really, you know, some different things that I've tried that have helped my symptoms and, you know, improve those things.
Cassie Skiles:And in that season, you know, obviously, any of us when we pray, we pray, you know, lord, if you could just heal me from this, if you could just, you know, instantly heal me, and absolutely I would love that.
Cassie Skiles:But that's not exactly the way that the Lord has answered that prayer for me. It's been a, you know, it's been Lord, give me wisdom. And he's answered that prayer and he's shown me, okay, here's the resource that I need to take you to, said I need to take you to, and what it's shown me is that if he had just instantly, you know, healed my body, there are things that I would maybe still be coming back around to having issues with, because it's a daily thing that I need to include, that I need to incorporate into my life, so him showing me that this is a daily thing, that this is going to help your body daily, rather than you know it's a wisdom about those things and it's I don't know it's really challenged my faith and also challenged, you know, my ability to trust that he's leading me in a way that you know is going to help me in that respect, but he is. He's helping me for sure.
Kim McIntire:Absolutely. That's so good. What's your perspective on this, Jeremiah?
Jeremiah Skiles:I just I had to have a lot of patience, yeah, and you know I don't have a lot of health issues, and so I've had to like slow down at times and realize, and I'll just say, cassie's a trooper.
Kim McIntire:She is, she really is, she is.
Jeremiah Skiles:And you know it could. I could let the enemy really frustrate me about things at times and just be like just won't you just eat normal food and let's go. But I don't, I, and that's sometimes what I want to say. So, but I'm glad that I, you know, I pray and I ask God, you know, ok, is this a time where I need to encourage her, or is this a time when I need to pray for her? So, and you just have to, you know, take a step back and put yourself in that situation and try to understand it from every direction, and that's what I've always tried to do, because, I mean, it was, it was early on, and it's not like we've always had these huge crisis in our marriage, but there are definite times where we've had struggles in that area and we always talk about it. Communication, that's right.
Jeremiah Skiles:It's not always easy, but you have to do it. The hard things and the good things. The hard things and the good. The good things are easy to communicate about, the hard things are not, and so you have to just kind of take a deep breath and say, all right, here we go with it, no matter how this is going to affect the situation. I got to get this out with Cassie and I both, so yeah, it's been one. I mean, she's great, she's such a trooper.
Kim McIntire:I believe it, I'm a witness. I'm a witness.
Jeremiah Skiles:She'll get up and do things when she's not feeling well and, yeah, that's really something I had to pray about. God, do I need to encourage her, because sometimes she just needs to get pulled out of that funk that she's in, and then other times I need to take care of her, and that's where you really have to be in tune with what God's wanting you to do and not just be insensitive.
Kim McIntire:Absolutely, Because I can be insensitive. That's good advice for all of us really Like Holy.
Kim McIntire:Spirit. What does this person need? Marriage the best marriages are selfless. People are selfless Absolutely. And I just hear this thread of communication patience, determination, selflessness, the Lord at the center of it all. And so what encouragement I mean, if you guys have encouragement that you would just like to speak into the listeners because we're actually increasing in our male percentages for our audience, our listening audience. So I'm super excited. We're at, I think, almost 20, I think it was 25% the last time I looked. So there are some men listening, jeremiah, so do you?
Jeremiah Skiles:have any words of encouragement to husbands today. Well, I've been married and divorced and there were some situations that still came up in my second marriage and I was like, oh, I guess that was my fault, but what I, what I would say, is just really look, look at yourself and and communicate with your wife. That is because it's not always easy. Sometimes you know if you're looking at things you shouldn't look at Right, you're looking at things you shouldn't look at, then it's a lot easier to tell your wife at the beginning, as opposed to letting it get a month and a year in advance and say, okay, now I really got to unload some stuff and it's going to be difficult, right, if you, if you have a situation to where you're, you're, you know, flipping through the channels and you stay on a channel for too long.
Kim McIntire:Yeah, and we've all been there.
Cassie Skiles:Yeah.
Jeremiah Skiles:I mean, I'm surrounded by two ladies, so probably not here, but all of us men have been there. We're like, oh, and then you don't change it right away, Then you know you need to tell your wife about that, Say, hey, this is what happened and that's that's what. That's what I've always done with Cassie, and I told her that from the beginning I was like, look, there's some things that I just have to be honest and real with you about. And it's so much easier because whenever the enemy, if he has nothing to hold against you, if he has no, if you have no secrets with your wife, if you have, if you are in great communication with your wife, see, what happens is, if you do something like that and you don't tell your spouse, Now you may not If you do something like that, he'll put a little hook in your heel.
Jeremiah Skiles:Yeah, and you think, oh, that's not that big a deal. I turned it, it wasn't that bad, it wasn't full nudity, if I'm just being honest, sure, sure. So If you, if you and then something else happens, the devil, the enemy, puts another little hook in your heel Right, and by the time you're done, you got, he's got enough to pull you backwards. It's true.
Jeremiah Skiles:And if you undo those hooks right away, and you just you, just be honest and say, look, this is what happened. That is so much easier than letting them build up and letting them just get out of control to where you have to take a whole weekend to, you know, to confess and to cry and to ask for forgiveness. It's so much easier if you just just right off the bat, say, look, this is what happened, I am so sorry. And we, we, we read about that this morning, didn't we? How does your spouse like to be apologized to in our, in our?
Jeremiah Skiles:reading so you have to find that out and so try to understand your spouse and what works the best with her. And because not everybody is not everybody, not every, not every wife will respond the same way, so you kind of have to test the waters, and I did, and so that would be my advice Just be honest and get it out there.
Kim McIntire:That's a good word and I love. I remember the last time we were with you guys as couples, you guys were showing us that, a book that you're doing devotionally together, and I think that's good advice too for couples Be in the word together, find a devotional you both can enjoy and talk about, because that brings you closer as well. Cassie, do you have and you referenced that, that's why I brought that in. But, cassie, do you have encouragement? You want to speak into wives today?
Cassie Skiles:Yeah, I would kind of in the same thread of what Jeremiah was speaking to from a wife's perspective. I know a lot of women can jump to a conclusion of being very closed off or very offended or hurt when your spouse comes to you with those things, and it can be either party, it can be, you know, the wife having something that goes on that she that I know my husband has had in the past. I understand that when he's coming to me he's coming to me from a heart that's wanting to get things and get him in the open and make it right, and so I don't immediately jump to a you know a defense mechanism with that. I want to come alongside him with that and I want to help him, to make him feel like and help him to know that this is a safe place for you to share that. And you know, if you, I want you to come to me and to tell me the struggle that you had with that, because you're a human being and this is the thing that you struggle with and I'm a human being.
Cassie Skiles:I struggle with things that are different than that. Mine aren't maybe as open and obvious as his are, and that's I think every relationship has that dynamic of. There's certain things that we all struggle with and you know, for me mine might be. I'm closed in my. I have fearful thoughts in my mind a lot and I sometimes just keep them to myself lot, and I sometimes just keep them to myself.
Cassie Skiles:And I've learned that when I share those thoughts with him and I say, hey, I'm saying this out loud, because if I say it out loud it kind of helps it to not be as powerful. But this is what I'm dwelling on right now and the enemy can get me into a place of, you know, being introverted, and into myself. It's isolating, exactly. And it's the same thing when he said there's a hook that gets in your heel. For him it's a hook of you know, oh, you can change that channel and find something and nobody's going to know about it. For me it's a oh, think about the situation that you're worried about and worst case scenario, and have that playing out in your head by yourself and don't tell anybody about it. You just keep it to yourself and worry about it and worry about it. And I can do that. And I've learned that it's better when off of me and even though I was confessing she would say you know what I'm struggling too, and let's just pray right now.
Jeremiah Skiles:And there goes that communication again. You get it out there and you understand and you can, you know, stand, stand back to back and fight against it.
Kim McIntire:And it's the enemy, absolutely and exactly each other, yep, and that's exactly where I was going.
Cassie Skiles:Next is a lot of the times when he's having a bad struggle and when I'm having those bad fearful thoughts or worried thoughts, we know that we're in the middle of something that the Lord is either about to bring us into or out of, and the enemy's just trying as much as he can to try to like last ditch effort. And the thing about it is, when you go through those things enough times, when you go through those battles enough times together, you start to recognize that the enemy doesn't have new tricks. He has smoke screens and mirrors and that's all he has. And if you look back on, you know those struggles that you have a lot of the times it's the exact same thing that he tries to do with you every time. And so when you recognize those patterns, a lot of times we'll come to each other and be like, oh man, there must be really something going on in the spirit realm that we can't see right now.
Cassie Skiles:But we're going to lean into the Lord in this and you know he's our third, third braid of the cord.
Jeremiah Skiles:And you know how many times we've anointed our house and just gone through and prayed. It's been a bunch of them. We're like you know what? There's something going on and we're just going to go through and anoint every window and every doorframe and we're just going to pray because we know that this is not right and there's something going on in the spirit realm that we don't understand. But we know it's not right and we know who our, who, our father is and he's not going to put up with it.
Cassie Skiles:So yeah, and a while back the Lord gave me. I'm terrible about the scripture references. I believe it's in Matthew, but it talks about Jesus being our shepherd and our gate, and so he gave me that as a there you go.
Kim McIntire:Okay, you knew it. Today I was going to say 10. There you go, john 10. Okay, I just read it.
Cassie Skiles:Today I was going to say John, awesome, okay, today yep, so the shepherd and the gate.
Kim McIntire:Yes, yes.
Cassie Skiles:Yes, and so this was a directive of how I pray now, and especially when we sense that there's something that's not quite just.
Cassie Skiles:Things don't feel right. You're my shepherd, you're our shepherd, you're our gate. You stand guard over our home, you stand guard over our marriage and anything that has come in through any method that is not from you has to leave. And in that moment you don't have to say, well, I confess that I did this and that and the other, the Lord knows. And you say you know, if it was me, if my changing that channel over allowed something into my home and now it's stirring things up between us, then I'm taking ownership of it. But at the same time, you're my shepherd, you're my gate and it didn't come through there. And there are things that come and we are, I believe, there are things spiritually that come as attacks on us that we haven't like.
Cassie Skiles:You know, it's not because we're weak and we've had a moment of, oh, it's because of what I did, or and I've had to really learn that too that because I've always been oh, you know, I grew up in that yeah, I grew up in that. You know, church, of where, if something's going wrong in your life, man, you must, you need to repent. You know because you're doing something wrong, and I've come to the realization that not always is that the situation. Sometimes it's the enemies trying to stop the plan of the Lord on your life Right.
Cassie Skiles:And so when you really take ownership of that authority that he's given us and his blood, that covers us, and you know so good and that's why we get that anointing oil out it's like Lord this is a representation of what we know that we are covered in your blood and your blood covers our home, our family and you're our shepherd, you're our gate and anything that hasn't come through that has to go.
Jeremiah Skiles:We even anointed a condo one time in Florida because we walked in, and there was the first hour, the first two hours, there was something going on. I'm not saying there was like something attack, but there was obviously something going on. And the only thing we, what did we anoint?
Cassie Skiles:Oh, I didn't have anointing oil with me, but I was like I got to find something. So I had some hair oil, like some you know where you'd make your hair shiny and I was like, yeah, let's use this. But it smelled really good too.
Jeremiah Skiles:It smelled really good, and we anointed all the doors and all the windows and immediately it was gone.
Kim McIntire:It's interesting that you guys are talking about this, because I was praying with a young lady earlier this week at my house and she was talking about some torment that was happening at night and I gave her some anointing oil and I said pray over your bedroom, anoint your pillows, anoint your bed. You know your bedroom.
Kim McIntire:I didn't say the whole house I should have, but specifically it's nighttime torment bed. You know your bedroom. I didn't say the whole house I should have, but specifically there was it's nighttime torment and people don't always recognize, maybe they haven't been taught, maybe they've never heard it before. But there is authority in the name of Jesus, the prayers of his people and the oil that represents his Holy Spirit and it places a guard around us in the spirit realm.
Kim McIntire:We may not see the enemy activity with our eyes, but it's happening. But we can be aware and say, no, satan, not today not tomorrow and not the day after that.
Kim McIntire:So you guys have spoken so much wisdom and truth over our listeners. I'm so grateful that you said yes to this interview. I know it's going to bless, encourage and strengthen so many. So thank you for being here. Thank you, listeners, for being part of today's episode. Thank you for having us. You are welcome and I just have a feeling you might be back sometime. I think so. Yeah, I think there's more. There's probably more to share. So if you guys would be willing, I would love for you to close us out in prayer, just to pray over our listeners today. Absolutely. Thank you, cassie.
Cassie Skiles:Yes, heavenly Father, we thank you so much. Thank you for every blessing that you've given Jeremiah and I and our ability to come and share our journey with the listeners. Lord, yes, lord, you know every person who's listening, lord. You know every couple represented and every family that's listening here, lord Jesus, and you know what they're going through. And so we pray right now, lord, for everyone who has tuned in and maybe heard something or maybe is going through something, and some of what we shared may have touched on that, or maybe they're just in a place of desperation or just reaching out to you right now. And so, lord, I pray that, even as they're listening, lord, that your Holy Spirit would come through the airwaves and that you would reach them right where they're at.
Cassie Skiles:And, lord, in the same way that you've spoken wisdom to Jeremiah and I through our journeys and through the things that we've been through, I pray that you would speak wisdom to each and every one of these couples or families that are reaching out to you, lord, and if they've, you know, maybe had a similar situation to one of us, or to health issues, like I've had, or the struggles that Jeremiah's had, or any of those things along the way, lord, we pray that you would bring them to a place of finding the resources that they need and to be able to open up and communicate with each other.
Cassie Skiles:And ultimately, that's the prayer that we pray over. Every couple is, lord, that the communication would happen in the way that you would design it to be for them. Lord, not everybody's going to be like Jeremiah and I. Some are going to be different. But, lord, I pray that you would show them what the communication that they should have, what it looks like for them, lord, and that you would lead them in your will for their life. But, lord, we lift them up and we pray for your anointing and your blessing and your strength over these marriages and over these couples, lord, and we thank you for it, jesus.
Jeremiah Skiles:And I come into agreement with these prayers that my wife has prayed, and I pray right now that you would give the men boldness to speak to their wives and to speak out your word, Lord Jesus. I pray that you would just open those lines of communication, just like she just prayed. Open those lines of communication even when the communication is difficult and even when it's easy.
Jeremiah Skiles:I just pray that you would just help them, lord Jesus, to live their lives in your will, lord Jesus, and in your way, father God. I just pray that you would bring out the good times, lord Jesus, and I just give you all the praise, lord Jesus, and glory in your name. Amen.
Kim McIntire:Amen. Thank you both so much. Just a quick reminder that the Rise Up conference in Branson August 1st and 2nd will be held at the Keeter Center. All the information about the conference is found on our website it's timetoriseuporg. I'm excited to share that we have a discount promo code just for podcast listeners, so use podcast 15. Those are all lowercase letters when you sign up to get a discounted rate on your conference registration. I'm looking forward to meeting our listeners at conference this year. Once again, you can find us on Facebook or Instagram at the underscore official underscore rise underscore up. May God's grace and peace be with you all In Jesus' name.
